Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 1:58am
So about that armored Trailer, How crazy can you go with this thing?
So just how Customization is this thing? Like what sort of Armor and Weaponry can you slap on it? Obviously it requires some Investment but I'm willing to slap down the "goodwill" Dollars to do it.
Originally posted by Zephon:
You can cover it in heavy armour(eventually),put an HMG and a 25mm cannon(default bradley main gun) on it after the Abiqu mission.So it very quickly becomes great for charging in and holding down a point on a map while the troops that were in it enter nearby buildings.
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Zephon Feb 28, 2024 @ 2:04am 
You can cover it in heavy armour(eventually),put an HMG and a 25mm cannon(default bradley main gun) on it after the Abiqu mission.So it very quickly becomes great for charging in and holding down a point on a map while the troops that were in it enter nearby buildings.
HeathenSW Feb 28, 2024 @ 2:07am 
Originally posted by Zephon:
You can cover it in heavy armour(eventually),put an HMG and a 25mm cannon(default bradley main gun) on it after the Abiqu mission.So it very quickly becomes great for charging in and holding down a point on a map while the troops that were in it enter nearby buildings.
Plus whatever squads you put inside can fire from it. I'm not sure about heavy weapon teams, but small caliver guns can be fired from them, plus rockets I think.
Zephon Feb 28, 2024 @ 2:08am 
That i did not know so it's even better than i thought.
jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Zephon:
That i did not know so it's even better than i thought.
Theirs a few Transports where the Passanagers can shoot out from "loopholes". I assume they meant Portholes or Gun ports. The VAN and the Striker being other examples.

Check the Encyclopedia on the Units, all sorts of useful information in their. Also thinking about the long term, accounting for the Cost of the Truck, Trailer and their Crews, its also ABOUT a little under half the cost of the M1 Abrams (1000 for the Truck, 1000 for the Trailer, like 800 something for both crews) to Roll with this thing. Not too bad i dare say.
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zpc Feb 28, 2024 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Zephon:
You can cover it in heavy armour(eventually),put an HMG and a 25mm cannon(default bradley main gun) on it after the Abiqu mission.So it very quickly becomes great for charging in and holding down a point on a map while the troops that were in it enter nearby buildings.

Also, it can be upgraded with a rotary 20mm cannon very early - in Santa Fe some of the light platforms have them equipped. So best save all from being destroyed & bring them in for salvage after this mission (reminder: guns are detachable).
Mikenator993 Feb 28, 2024 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by zpc:
Originally posted by Zephon:
You can cover it in heavy armour(eventually),put an HMG and a 25mm cannon(default bradley main gun) on it after the Abiqu mission.So it very quickly becomes great for charging in and holding down a point on a map while the troops that were in it enter nearby buildings.

Also, it can be upgraded with a rotary 20mm cannon very early - in Santa Fe some of the light platforms have them equipped. So best save all from being destroyed & bring them in for salvage after this mission (reminder: guns are detachable).

How the F do you detach these?
jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 3:50am 
Originally posted by Mikenator993:
Originally posted by zpc:

Also, it can be upgraded with a rotary 20mm cannon very early - in Santa Fe some of the light platforms have them equipped. So best save all from being destroyed & bring them in for salvage after this mission (reminder: guns are detachable).

How the F do you detach these?
If you mean taking the Gun OFF, once you acquire something, go to the Army management Screen and you can just Remove the weapon. Every Single Vehicles has a DEFAULT weapon they are armed with (for example 50 Caliber HMGs or 25mm Cannons). Other weapons you can mount on these vehicles you can Swap in and out at will, Just need to pay for the ammo resupply.
Warnoise Feb 28, 2024 @ 4:15am 
it's crap. it's not tanky (with cage armor it's ok though) but worse of it all, despite being large unit that requires a tractor to move it only has 700 spare parts. Grab yourself a Bradley
Falcon_BR Feb 28, 2024 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Warnoise:
it's crap. it's not tanky (with cage armor it's ok though) but worse of it all, despite being large unit that requires a tractor to move it only has 700 spare parts. Grab yourself a Bradley

Bradley costs 4000 of upkeep,
Trailer + truck costs 2000.
They have same starting weapons, the truck can get plasma cannon and the trailer can get an abbrams gun! Both can get armored, you can even place a buldozer to pull the trailer and it is more armored them the bradley (with upgrades)
jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Warnoise:
it's crap. it's not tanky (with cage armor it's ok though) but worse of it all, despite being large unit that requires a tractor to move it only has 700 spare parts. Grab yourself a Bradley
I did, from the exact same mission in fact.
jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Falcon_BR:
Originally posted by Warnoise:
it's crap. it's not tanky (with cage armor it's ok though) but worse of it all, despite being large unit that requires a tractor to move it only has 700 spare parts. Grab yourself a Bradley

Bradley costs 4000 of upkeep,
Trailer + truck costs 2000.
They have same starting weapons, the truck can get plasma cannon and the trailer can get an abbrams gun! Both can get armored, you can even place a buldozer to pull the trailer and it is more armored them the bradley (with upgrades)
Add on the crew costs and its closer to 3000, still cheeper though. A Dozar towing the Trailer would put it over the cost of the Bradley, since the Dozar is 2000 plus the 1000 from the trailer, plus the crew and its about the same cost.

An Abrams Cannon? Oh right you can upgrade the Cannon Turrets to support Heavier weapons.
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Warnoise Feb 28, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Falcon_BR:
Originally posted by Warnoise:
it's crap. it's not tanky (with cage armor it's ok though) but worse of it all, despite being large unit that requires a tractor to move it only has 700 spare parts. Grab yourself a Bradley

Bradley costs 4000 of upkeep,
Trailer + truck costs 2000.
They have same starting weapons, the truck can get plasma cannon and the trailer can get an abbrams gun! Both can get armored, you can even place a buldozer to pull the trailer and it is more armored them the bradley (with upgrades)

Bradley with ceramic armor is better.
Bradley can carry troops
Bradley has smokes
Bradley has ATGM
Bradley can move at a decent speed
Bradley has 2000 spare parts so can withstand damage for longer
Bradley has smaller frame so harder to hit and easier to hide

So yeah Bradley is 100% worth its supply cost, meanwhile you gotta carry the trailer (that has the tankiness of a Stryker bit with 700 spare parts) with a truck that has 600 spare parts (that literally dies to small arms without cage armor) or a Bulldozer that takes forever to go from point A to B.

The trailer needs a spare parts increase, an armor increase and an accuracy increase when detached
jbwjr Feb 28, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Warnoise:
Originally posted by Falcon_BR:

Bradley costs 4000 of upkeep,
Trailer + truck costs 2000.
They have same starting weapons, the truck can get plasma cannon and the trailer can get an abbrams gun! Both can get armored, you can even place a buldozer to pull the trailer and it is more armored them the bradley (with upgrades)

Bradley with ceramic armor is better.
Bradley can carry troops
Bradley has smokes
Bradley has ATGM
Bradley can move at a decent speed
Bradley has 2000 spare parts so can withstand damage for longer
Bradley has smaller frame so harder to hit and easier to hide

So yeah Bradley is 100% worth its supply cost, meanwhile you gotta carry the trailer (that has the tankiness of a Stryker bit with 700 spare parts) with a truck that has 600 spare parts (that literally dies to small arms without cage armor) or a Bulldozer that takes forever to go from point A to B.

The trailer needs a spare parts increase, an armor increase and an accuracy increase when detached
I mean without question the Founders Military Vehicles are the best in the game, especially when you kit them out with upgrades. But hay building your own BATTLEWAGON is just too Cheezey action movie to pass up.

Plus the Trailer can carry 24 troops (vs the Bradleys 7, Strikers and M113s 10) and have 5000 Ammo on board (vs the Bradley and Striker which have like 500 and the M113 has like 1100). You could say it works as like a Mobile BASE or a FOB trailer. About the only thing it Can't do is resupply Fuel and Ammo to Vehicles.

But yeah it could probably use more Spare Parts since its such a HUGE target. Maybe trade some Ammo Space for Parts. Like say 1500 Parts and 4000 ammo.
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Mr.Kill Feb 28, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
If you don't have any tank drivers than the armored trailer with all its upgrades loaded to brim with grenade launchers and minigun-autocannons is a good trade. Also load it with heavy weapons teams for more grenade chucking action. A bradley will likely get smashed taking out a rpg held building. The trailer + tractor has a somewhat better chance of survival. Though I've noticed the best way is to send a sharpshooter with weapons disable and have them scout. They can get really close without being shot enabling whatever you have to clear those buildings out.
dieman  [developer] Feb 28, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
You can put two dozen militia with plasma in a trailer and almost all of them will shoot from the loopholes. And whoever does not shoot from the loopholes will shoot from weapons mounted on the roof (you can put an also ATGM and, for example, a 20mm rotary gun on the roof in the same way as on Bradley).
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