m113 V Stryker

[Murderlake]

I'm currently deciding whether I should run two Founder assault forces using Strykers or M113s for transport. I get mixed messages as to the comparative usefulness of these two vehicles.

The higher supply cost of the Stryker suggests that it is "better" but in what way exactly? Obviously the smoke and remote control MG are bonuses, but I can't seem to find information on comparative armour strength which is what realistically matters to me.

[wei270]

interesting i never thought about putting ATGM on M113, their ammo capacity does fit this roll well.

[damart]

ATGM and recoilless, that's where m113 shines. Stryker for everything else.

[Andrew]

The Stryker cost 2700 supply units and the M113 cost 2200.

Also the the Stryker auto remotely controlled weapon is removed if you add any weapon in it slot. This means that the gun has to be manned in the open. When you add carbon or Ceramic armor the M113 gunner gets a gun shielded, which protects form them being picked of. Given how plasma are more powerful and have a higher rate of fire, I use the M113 with armor upgrades.

At the end thought trading in a M113 or a Stryker for a Bradley is always the better option.

I would not keep more M113 or Stryker than you can armor with more then junk armor. And it should be noted that the Intergrators have a Bradly at the start of the game that you can buy form them if you visit the first camp.

Note the M113 has 6 tow missile, while the Stryker will only have 3, if you replace the main weapon with a tow.

[HeathenSW]

Publicado originalmente por Andrew:

Also the the Stryker auto remotely controlled weapon is removed if you add any weapon in it slot. This means that the gun has to be manned in the open.

This is not true. Not many guns can be mounted on Stryker, but none use a gun operator - default one, grenade launcher, minigun, Plasma MG. You can't equip other guns to my knowledge.
I use two strykers with plasma MG right no and there are no gunners.

[Burning like KELT-9b]

Stryker due to the smoke alone. if i ever used M113 then ill use TOW or recoilless on it. youll be surprised how easy the hatch gunner gets melted under small arms fire especially on realistic, even with the supposed "reinforced armor". if i needed a fast assault transport that could stick around for longer i'd definitely pick stryker; the weapon versatility of M113 is not really needed and besides, humvee could do it cheaper. m113 is a nice cashcow for me to get a new shiny bradley or dozer + passenger trailer/heavy platform.

[Filip STI]

I like the Stryker more because of smoke, stronger armor ,remote controled turret. As for the APC being a TOW ATGM platform I think that the basic Van is more suited to this role ,its cheaper/quicker.

Im currently having quiete a bit of fun with lvl 4 driver in Stryker. With the basic 50cal it almost shoots continuesly . Im almost starting to believe that 50cal is better than plasma mg because of it. Not getting the gunner killed due to small arms is the best thing about it anyway.

I also dont like having too many Bradleys. You can tech. get 5 before Vega (If I remember correctly) but you dont get more than 2 Tank squads... sooo you are giving exp to technicians, but they dont have good upgrades from higher lvls. Why not keep a smaller ,more efficient force and focus on giving exp to squads that get alot better over time.

[REhorror]

I am starting to miss the Stryker for real, oh well.

[HeathenSW]

Publicado originalmente por REhorror:

I am starting to miss the Stryker for real, oh well.

Yeah. After I played more with M113 I understood that I really dislike it. Paper thin, no smoke, 200 more ammo for infantry (not enough to justfy the use), vulnurable gunner, seemingly less speed... I'm so sorry to Stryker that I didn't like it before. It's my go-to apc now.

Restarted and have 6 strykers now and life is good. 1 M113 with ATMG is eh, really didn't need to get even one - Bradleys double this functinality as well, plus we can have cheap cans/technicals for the same accuracy and from the same range indeed.

I fail to find a role for M113 honestly.

[REhorror]

I hope I can buy some more Stryker boys as I proceed to Oaklahoma.

[REhorror]

Also as I notice, smoke and speed are the defense of this game.

Armor helps but you are dead if you are slow.

[Wardaddouche]

Publicado originalmente por HeathenSW:

Publicado originalmente por REhorror:

I am starting to miss the Stryker for real, oh well.

Yeah. After I played more with M113 I understood that I really dislike it. Paper thin, no smoke, 200 more ammo for infantry (not enough to justfy the use), vulnurable gunner, seemingly less speed... I'm so sorry to Stryker that I didn't like it before. It's my go-to apc now.

Restarted and have 6 strykers now and life is good. 1 M113 with ATMG is eh, really didn't need to get even one - Bradleys double this functinality as well, plus we can have cheap cans/technicals for the same accuracy and from the same range indeed.

I fail to find a role for M113 honestly.

I tend to use the M113 as defensive plateforms, with plasma RR and TOW launchers, the Stryker are more of an offensive option that follow the armored pushes with the Bradleys. The M113 if I remember correctly carry more ammo than the stryker, so you can also use them to resuplly in some intense firefights (when you're stuck in your building shooting as ennemies also in cover).

[Filip STI]

Just use cartel supply truck for building resupply and you dont need to move units from inside of the building. If you need extra firepower even the simple truck+vagon has both more supply and weapons.

[BEAR]

One of my most trusted apcs, has been a up armored 113 with a plasma recoiless rifle. It's survived my whole campaign and saved plenty of troops from spiders and hunter platforms.

[Crystal meth enthusiast]

Stryker suck. 113 more usefull. It has more utility with worse stats.