Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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Why does Blair suddenly forget people's names at the end?
He's a terminator of course, but he is hostile and terminator-like at the start of the game, and he knows everyone's names just fine.

Is the idea that blair at the start of the game is a terminator AND the one at the end is just an identical model using his appearance?

Or was the original blair a human who...Was just very very silly.
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Auxipuya212 Mar 8, 2024 @ 8:20am 
Blair is a terminator in the end not in the start of the game
ThatZenoGuy Mar 8, 2024 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Auxipuya212:
Blair is a terminator in the end not in the start of the game
Why does he act so strangely in the start then? And in the middle of the game too?
Neyreyan_Youtube Mar 8, 2024 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:
Originally posted by Auxipuya212:
Blair is a terminator in the end not in the start of the game
Why does he act so strangely in the start then? And in the middle of the game too?
good question, i still have to do the last mission but it's kind of hinted that the legion forces attacked not because of us but because of blair working with legion maybe.
the fact he goes awol after wanting to kill the best field commander seems suspicios.
Anyway, someone of his rank would leave in a bradley or a chopper unless they were meeting with someone in secret
Magos Hudson Mar 8, 2024 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:
Originally posted by Auxipuya212:
Blair is a terminator in the end not in the start of the game
Why does he act so strangely in the start then? And in the middle of the game too?


He's the son of a ring knocker, what that means is his daddy is a general, west point graduate. It means his career was bought and paid for by his father rather than merit. He's just incompetent and hostile at the beginning the same way his dad is hostile and incompetent when you meet him. But at the end he is dead and that Blair you run into is a terminator, quickly put together by Legion and deployed, I would assume, with the hope to kill leadership of the founders during this assault. Because realistically theyd want to take him to be debriefed, if not by actual than at least by a general.
Deathstroke72 Mar 8, 2024 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Magos Hudson:
Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:
Why does he act so strangely in the start then? And in the middle of the game too?


He's the son of a ring knocker, what that means is his daddy is a general, west point graduate. It means his career was bought and paid for by his father rather than merit. He's just incompetent and hostile at the beginning the same way his dad is hostile and incompetent when you meet him. But at the end he is dead and that Blair you run into is a terminator, quickly put together by Legion and deployed, I would assume, with the hope to kill leadership of the founders during this assault. Because realistically theyd want to take him to be debriefed, if not by actual than at least by a general.
He's the nephew I thought?
Pete Mar 8, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
I think Blair just acted like an ass and left his post during mission two. Later on he put the blame upon Church. When Church managed to redeem himself he got worried that he would be brought to a firing squad and deserted. He was probably captured by Legion and skinned so that a Terminator could replace him.

What I do not understand is why did he knew Church's name (Mason he did not recognize)? How did Legion found out about Church?
Last edited by Pete; Mar 8, 2024 @ 1:26pm
Wardaddouche Mar 8, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
Captain Blair was alive (and real) until the rescue of Major Stevens, he knew that Stevens testimony would grill his ass so he went AWOL (The Ranger's commander tell you that they found the Humvee he used to desert, it was burned, with no body and a set of footprints, machines and one human). The fake captain Blair might know your name either trough interrogation or because Legion is listenning to Founders communications. Seems that interrogation is most likely, since he (the fake Blair) feins remorse about his action + you're the closest to his position, and you look like you're in charge so, YOU must be Church (and the real Blair might have talked about you, you're the reason he fled and got captured after all) Mason is just some random NCO to him and I don't think he tought he had any relevance in his interrogation.
Last edited by Wardaddouche; Mar 8, 2024 @ 7:05pm
Booba Mar 8, 2024 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Pete:
What I do not understand is why did he knew Church's name (Mason he did not recognize)? How did Legion found out about Church?
Eh. The story is so mechanically weak it doesn't bear consideration. You might as well ask why Church and Mason can teleport around battlefields to speak to characters as if they're personally present in every squad.
CheekiBreeker Mar 8, 2024 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Booba:
Eh. The story is so mechanically weak it doesn't bear consideration. You might as well ask why Church and Mason can teleport around battlefields to speak to characters as if they're personally present in every squad.
Obviously, these hardcore military guys don't have radio equipments and must have teleported around the battlefield. It's not like Kondo the hacker gave them a bunch of radios right in the first actual mission or something, right?
Booba Mar 8, 2024 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by CheekiBreeker:
Originally posted by Booba:
Eh. The story is so mechanically weak it doesn't bear consideration. You might as well ask why Church and Mason can teleport around battlefields to speak to characters as if they're personally present in every squad.
Obviously, these hardcore military guys don't have radio equipments and must have teleported around the battlefield. It's not like Kondo the hacker gave them a bunch of radios right in the first actual mission or something, right?
Yes. Radios. You have to physically walk generic units into physical contact with NPCs in order for the protagonist to talk to them over the radios everybody has...

Don't get absurd trying to defend the flimsy architecture of a story compromised by game mechanics. It doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing in life is.
ThatZenoGuy Mar 9, 2024 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by Booba:
Originally posted by CheekiBreeker:
Obviously, these hardcore military guys don't have radio equipments and must have teleported around the battlefield. It's not like Kondo the hacker gave them a bunch of radios right in the first actual mission or something, right?
Yes. Radios. You have to physically walk generic units into physical contact with NPCs in order for the protagonist to talk to them over the radios everybody has...

Don't get absurd trying to defend the flimsy architecture of a story compromised by game mechanics. It doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing in life is.
My dude, you're aware EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME talks to the player via a radio, right?
Darkhart Mar 9, 2024 @ 12:40am 
Blair at the start is human, as to why he is hostile is because he blames us for bringing legion into the base, he didn't want to bring in any of rescue civilian but was outrank by major stevens. Legion follow us back to the base to get the civilians for their project. As more and more legion attack the base, Blair cowardly ran for his life since he didnt want to die, but running away is an act of desertion which would be punishable, that is why he lied to other founder leaders that we betray them and caused the destruction of the base to save himself from abandoning his post and running away.
ThatZenoGuy Mar 9, 2024 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Darkhart:
Blair at the start is human, as to why he is hostile is because he blames us for bringing legion into the base, he didn't want to bring in any of rescue civilian but was outrank by major stevens. Legion follow us back to the base to get the civilians for their project. As more and more legion attack the base, Blair cowardly ran for his life since he didnt want to die, but running away is an act of desertion which would be punishable, that is why he lied to other founder leaders that we betray them and caused the destruction of the base to save himself from abandoning his post and running away.
But to me it looks more like Blair was a terminator, and brought Legion to the base.
Booba Mar 9, 2024 @ 1:35am 
Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:
Originally posted by Booba:
Yes. Radios. You have to physically walk generic units into physical contact with NPCs in order for the protagonist to talk to them over the radios everybody has...

Don't get absurd trying to defend the flimsy architecture of a story compromised by game mechanics. It doesn't have to be perfect. Nothing in life is.
My dude, you're aware EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME talks to the player via a radio, right?
You're aware that the developers took the time to apply a suitable effect to indicate when characters are communicating by radio, right? You're aware that you don't have to physically run or drive an intermediary to the person you want to speak to when you both have radios, right? You know you shouldn't have to physically seize an abandoned Movement base in order to send a radio transmission, when "EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME" talks via radio. Right?

Events and occurrences in a video game aren't necessarily grounded in reality -or even logic. Sometimes players just need to be tasked and challenged. More often than not, stories get told in broad strokes rather than in fine detail. And that is fine: especially in a strategy/tactics game like this.
ThatZenoGuy Mar 9, 2024 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Booba:
Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:
My dude, you're aware EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME talks to the player via a radio, right?
You're aware that the developers took the time to apply a suitable effect to indicate when characters are communicating by radio, right? You're aware that you don't have to physically run or drive an intermediary to the person you want to speak to when you both have radios, right? You know you shouldn't have to physically seize an abandoned Movement base in order to send a radio transmission, when "EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME" talks via radio. Right?

Events and occurrences in a video game aren't necessarily grounded in reality -or even logic. Sometimes players just need to be tasked and challenged. More often than not, stories get told in broad strokes rather than in fine detail. And that is fine: especially in a strategy/tactics game like this.
You realize you can't just pick up a radio and chat to somebody without knowing what frequency they're on, right?

Everyone ingame, if they have radios, are doing proper opsec and aren't broadcasting 24/7 on a single channel.
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