what were they thinking?

[upsetkiller]

as i said what were they thinking taking the name and story of a flopped film that the fandom rejected? this was an opportunity to make a game set in the Main skynet timeline, feature john connor instead of some diversity hire.

[REhorror]

Aren't the low tier termies basically alumminium or did I remember incorrectly?

[Leigh]

I would prefer a "proper" Terminator title, with Skynet versus the Human Resistance, personally.

That is more the side of the lore I fall on, but at least we are getting a Terminator RTS. I'd pick it up in a deep sale for sure,

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by Decarien:

Expensive how? In pure material costs, it could make dozens of terminators for one of those big tanks or HKs. I don't see any other factor an AI would really have any reason to care about.

Desperate was building a time machine, the terminators were infantry.

Lets say a tank HK is made from 100 T-800's worth of materials.

Because 100 T-800's require so many more parts, so much more industrial output to make every single little piece, you actually can only make about 70 T-800's per HK.

And a single HK can kill a lot more resistance than 70 non-fleshed T-800's.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by Decarien:

Expensive how? In pure material costs, it could make dozens of terminators for one of those big tanks or HKs. I don't see any other factor an AI would really have any reason to care about.

Desperate was building a time machine, the terminators were infantry.

Lets say a tank HK is made from 100 T-800's worth of materials.

Because 100 T-800's require so many more parts, so much more industrial output to make every single little piece, you actually can only make about 70 T-800's per HK.

And a single HK can kill a lot more resistance than 70 non-fleshed T-800's.

That's probably not true.
Skynet doesn't have to pay for workers, it just comes down to materials, and the lesser materials required, the cheaper the robots.

Though, I wonder if it will cost more energy to manufacturer a Terminator than a HK.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by REhorror:

That's probably not true.
Skynet doesn't have to pay for workers, it just comes down to materials, and the lesser materials required, the cheaper the robots.

Though, I wonder if it will cost more energy to manufacturer a Terminator than a HK.

Pfft. Please look up how industrial output works. It's generally much harder to make a lot of little things, than a few big things.
Especially when the little things are proportionally much more complex and advanced.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by REhorror:

That's probably not true.
Skynet doesn't have to pay for workers, it just comes down to materials, and the lesser materials required, the cheaper the robots.

Though, I wonder if it will cost more energy to manufacturer a Terminator than a HK.

Pfft. Please look up how industrial output works. It's generally much harder to make a lot of little things, than a few big things.
Especially when the little things are proportionally much more complex and advanced.

For chips and stuff, it makes sense due to how small they are.
For Terminator tho, they look like a bunch of pipes and screws?

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by REhorror:

For chips and stuff, it makes sense due to how small they are.
For Terminator tho, they look like a bunch of pipes and screws?

Terminators are incredibly complex, with powerful processing chips, hydraulics, micro energy sources and other complicated pieces.

In comparison to a HK tank, they are far more complex and hard to make. A HK tank is just a tank with arms and a head.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by REhorror:

For chips and stuff, it makes sense due to how small they are.
For Terminator tho, they look like a bunch of pipes and screws?

Terminators are incredibly complex, with powerful processing chips, hydraulics, micro energy sources and other complicated pieces.

In comparison to a HK tank, they are far more complex and hard to make. A HK tank is just a tank with arms and a head.

The HK tanks would also need chips, hydraulics and stuff tho.
There are full of movable frames, they are just bigger.

[Decarien]

Like I said, I don't think Skynet really cares. Complexity? Difficulty to produce? That all boils down to design calculation, precision manufacturing, and controlled environments. So what if production of larger parts can be rounded to a few less places?

That kind of math and engineering is an AI's bread and butter.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by Decarien:

Like I said, I don't think Skynet really cares. Complexity? Difficulty to produce? That all boils down to design calculation, precision manufacturing, and controlled environments. So what if production of larger parts can be rounded to a few less places?

That kind of math and engineering is an AI's bread and butter.

Skynet is actually not very smart at all, it was losing very decisively against barely organized human infantry.

[upsetkiller]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by Decarien:

Like I said, I don't think Skynet really cares. Complexity? Difficulty to produce? That all boils down to design calculation, precision manufacturing, and controlled environments. So what if production of larger parts can be rounded to a few less places?

That kind of math and engineering is an AI's bread and butter.

Skynet is actually not very smart at all, it was losing very decisively against barely organized human infantry.

James Cameron on the record said that skynet felt regret for the response it had initially by wiping most humans out, it cant self terminate either so it orchestrated the whole thing so that humans kill it off.

also this topic is dead af lets keep it that way

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by upsetkiller:

James Cameron on the record said that skynet felt regret for the response it had initially by wiping most humans out, it cant self terminate either so it orchestrated the whole thing so that humans kill it off.

also this topic is dead af lets keep it that way

Who cares what James Cameron said lmao? It detected humanity as it's main threat and then nuked em. T1 Kyle Reese said so.

[upsetkiller]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by upsetkiller:

James Cameron on the record said that skynet felt regret for the response it had initially by wiping most humans out, it cant self terminate either so it orchestrated the whole thing so that humans kill it off.

also this topic is dead af lets keep it that way

Who cares what James Cameron said lmao? It detected humanity as it's main threat and then nuked em. T1 Kyle Reese said so.

because it was way back before he lost his mind. and it makes perfect sense too.

[REhorror]

It's safe to say the Terminator universe has outgrown James Cameron.
The man probably hasn't put that much thought into it anyway, it's more about the triumph of human ingenuity over the strength and intelligence of machine.

[Decarien]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by Decarien:

Like I said, I don't think Skynet really cares. Complexity? Difficulty to produce? That all boils down to design calculation, precision manufacturing, and controlled environments. So what if production of larger parts can be rounded to a few less places?

That kind of math and engineering is an AI's bread and butter.

Skynet is actually not very smart at all, it was losing very decisively against barely organized human infantry.

Skynet created an army, plasma weapons, liquid metal, and time travel. Regardless of whether or not it was a capable tactician with those creations, it was a brilliant engineer and logistician.

Even if, as you claim, it wasn't smart then by your own reasoning it having an army of terminators (which you said was suboptimal) is even more likely.