Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn

Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn

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Conky Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:53am
Excellent review from Fully Ramblomatic.
It's no surprise this game is tanking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv4QMdG02Pk
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azogthedefiler25 Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Conky:
Originally posted by Astronimo:
A small game with close to zero marketing from a not famous studio got to the top 5 gamepass position, right after years old stuff like nms.

Also online on steam isn't that great since the game is small and doesn't have replayability. Not that it was designed with it in mind in the first place.

Being on gamepass day 1 means your game is selling really well? I am not sure that being on gamepass is really a flex when it comes to a new IP.
Stalker 2 and the new Indiana Jones game will be on game pass. Both of those games look promising.
Last edited by azogthedefiler25; Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:48pm
Astronimo Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:36pm 
Those games are financed by Microsoft though. Indiana is a Bethesda title (so, not fully Microsoft, only partially) and Stalker was saved by MS with basically financing it's development.
With the new subscription level, I wish them good playing numbers, but I will buy them anyway as standalone.
Last edited by Astronimo; Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:36pm
azogthedefiler25 Jul 24, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by Astronimo:
Those games are financed by Microsoft though. Indiana is a Bethesda title (so, not fully Microsoft, only partially) and Stalker was saved by MS with basically financing it's development.
With the new subscription level, I wish them good playing numbers, but I will buy them anyway as standalone.
Oh, sorry. I was responding to Conky, not you.
Alyx Jul 25, 2024 @ 12:03am 
Originally posted by Astronimo:
Originally posted by Alyx The Exiled:
If the game was good, it would not have flopped day 1.

No review will make the story look any better as the game and players who said no spoke for themselves already.
A small game with close to zero marketing from a not famous studio got to the top 5 gamepass position, right after years old stuff like nms.

Also online on steam isn't that great since the game is small and doesn't have replayability. Not that it was designed with it in mind in the first place.
All that and still flopped on day 1.

Making top 5 on gamepass means nothing if the game made little to no money whatsoever. It's still a failure.
Last edited by Alyx; Jul 25, 2024 @ 12:05am
Conky Jul 26, 2024 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by azogthedefiler25:
Originally posted by Conky:

Being on gamepass day 1 means your game is selling really well? I am not sure that being on gamepass is really a flex when it comes to a new IP.
Stalker 2 and the new Indiana Jones game will be on game pass. Both of those games look promising.

I am not familiar with those games nor am I posting in their forums nor am I going to speculate about how successful Gamepass makes games that aren't even released. Historically, Gamepass isn't a huge money maker for studios. And being on Gamepass day 1 is not some kind of industry code for "this game is going to be a blockbuster. Doesn't matter if standalone sales are terrible, we got Gamepass in our back pocket. Infinite. Money. Glitch."

Seriously are you really trying to use games that aren't released yet begin on gamepass as some strange gotcha about Flintlock selling horrible numbers on steam yet somehow being a moneymaker on Gamepass? (the numbers on gamepass are unknown to me which is why I don't understand your claims. ) We are on steam forums. Nobody cares about gamepass. If you did you would be playing there.
Jacob Locke Jul 26, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Astronimo:
Those games are financed by Microsoft though. Indiana is a Bethesda title (so, not fully Microsoft, only partially) and Stalker was saved by MS with basically financing it's development.
With the new subscription level, I wish them good playing numbers, but I will buy them anyway as standalone.
Microsoft bought Bethesda. The level of autonomy granted Bethesda by MS is only really known by Bethesda and MS. And MS could modify that arrangement at any time. Bit of advice, don't believe everything MS says, they've been lying to their customers for decades. They seem to have taken a step back and are allowing artists to be artists, but only time will tell if this is true or just more sleight of hand.

I'm watching both games. Hopeful but tempering my expectations. I'm a big fan of STALKER from way back. Hopefully MS hasn't managed to screw with that too much.
Astronimo Jul 26, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
Stalker was delayed btw. For 2 months.
Fomin Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by Conky:
It's no surprise this game is tanking.

You haven't played the game. Great work trying to validate your ACTIVISM by posting a review from a guy who debunked himself by trying to tear down both Hogwarts Legacy AND the original soulslike, Demon's Souls btw.

:cozybrawlhalla1:

Yahtzee spends most of his review virtue-signalling by attacking JK Rowling (who wasn't even consulted for the game) as a "_____phobic c-word" before concluding by saying that the game itself is terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8icDKRxXMc

But if you REALLY want to see an oof, look at his review for the first soulslike.

"So in conclusion [redacted] you Demon's Souls. A challenge is one thing but trying to break down a [redacted] cement wall with your forehead isn't a challenge; it's ground for getting redacted sectioned."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQSCKAPqxoo

Really I can see why self-victimizing ACTIVISTS hating on this game are aligned with Yahtzee now. Just like he did with Hogwarts Legacy, you are trying to destroy a good game over vague accusations of wrongthink... and then just like the extremists did with that game, you try to cope after it comes out and the people who actually played it like it by saying that the gameplay isn't that good.
Last edited by Fomin; Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:55pm
Conky Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:45pm 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Conky:
It's no surprise this game is tanking.

You haven't played the game. Great work trying to validate your ACTIVISM by posting a review from a guy who debunked himself by trying to tear down both Hogwarts Legacy AND the original soulslike, Demon's Souls btw.

:cozybrawlhalla1:

Yahtzee spends most of his review virtue-signalling by attacking JK Rowling (who wasn't even consulted for the game) as a "_____phobic c-word" before concluding by saying that the game itself is terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8icDKRxXMc

But if you REALLY want to see an oof, look at his review for the first soulslike.

"So in conclusion [redacted] you Demon's Souls. A challenge is one thing but trying to break down a [redacted] cement wall with your forehead isn't a challenge; it's ground for getting redacted sectioned."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQSCKAPqxoo

Really I can see why you self-victimizing ACTIVISTS are aligned with Yahtzee now. Just like he did, you are trying to destroy a good game because you WANT to be angry... and then just like the extremists did with that game, you try to cope after it comes out and the people who actually played it like it by saying that the gameplay isn't that good.

You actually having trouble comparing the numbers between this game and one that is doing well?

You don't need to be focused on any kind of "activism" to see there are 100 players in Flintlock right now.

There are 325 in Postal 2.

145,979 in Elden RIng.

I like that you are attacking the reviewer rather than the review. Really demonstrates that you have a solid understanding of things.
Last edited by Conky; Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:50pm
Fomin Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
Originally posted by Conky:

I like that you are attacking the reviewer rather than the review. Really demonstrates that you have a solid understanding of things.

I unlike you have played the game. That's how I know it's good.

As for "going after the reviewer" are you actually saying that the fact that the reviewer has a record of hating great games like Hogwarts Legacy and Demon's Souls isn't relevant to evaluating his review?

No you aren't because if he were praising the game which you hate (despite not having played it) I am 100% sure you would bring up the fact that he is a hack who hates good games.

:cozybrawlhalla1:
Last edited by Fomin; Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:54pm
Conky Jul 26, 2024 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Conky:

I like that you are attacking the reviewer rather than the review. Really demonstrates that you have a solid understanding of things.

I unlike you have played the game. That's how I know it's good.

As for "going after the reviewer" are you actually saying that the fact that the reviewer has a record of hating great games like Hogwarts Legacy and Demon's Souls isn't relevant to evaluating his review?

No you aren't because if he were praising the game which you hate (despite not having played it) I am 100% sure you would bring up the fact that he is a hack who hates good games.

:cozybrawlhalla1:

So you are... attacking reviewers because you think the game is good.

Rather than writing your own review?

That strategy is sure to change a lot of minds. I bet a lot of people will be convinced the game is good if you attack Yahtzee but don't post a positive review of your own.

LOL

Okay.

EDIT: OOPS, did you forget to mention Erd Tree or are you over that?
Last edited by Conky; Jul 26, 2024 @ 10:03pm
Fomin Jul 26, 2024 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by Conky:

So you are... attacking reviewers because you think the game is good.

Rather than writing your own review?

No I am providing context. Just as I wouldn't watch a movie made by Jjabram Destroyer of Worlds (JJ Abrams) or current year Disney expecting it to be good, I wouldn't put too much stock in a reviewer I already added to my "do not recommend this channel" list after seeing his incredibly bad take on Hogwarts Legacy, a game which I know is good because I played it myself.

You are right that writing my own review would be more productive than arguing with people who haven't played the game though. I will give you credit for that.

On a related note, perhaps you should try the game for yourself and post a review. if you did that, your opinion would hold a lot more weight and you might even find out that the game (which is about as "woke" as World War Z) is something you like.

I sincerely hope you have a great weekend whatever you do. I actually used to be in SBI-detected myself and I still have the ban for criticizing the uglification of Aloy proudly displayed on my profile as an artwork.

I don't think you are evil; I think you are making a mistake because you have been misled by clout-farmers who literally profit by whipping up fake controversies... and since I used to be in that position myself, I can't hate you for it.

Best!
Last edited by Fomin; Jul 26, 2024 @ 10:21pm
Namethatworks Jul 26, 2024 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Conky:

I like that you are attacking the reviewer rather than the review. Really demonstrates that you have a solid understanding of things.

I unlike you have played the game. That's how I know it's good.

As for "going after the reviewer" are you actually saying that the fact that the reviewer has a record of hating great games like Hogwarts Legacy and Demon's Souls isn't relevant to evaluating his review?

No you aren't because if he were praising the game which you hate (despite not having played it) I am 100% sure you would bring up the fact that he is a hack who hates good games.

:cozybrawlhalla1:

He likes Demon's Souls. The remakes review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEH3btSR3os&ab_channel=TheEscapist

Here's the thing you can disagree with a reviewer's review on a game. Not liking their opinion on one game shouldn't nullify all of their reviews.(that's some black & white thinking) Unless you just want to perpetuate a echo chamber.(only opinions you agree with are valid)

Which from the sounds of this post(& just how you react & act) you are making for yourself. A safety bubble where things you don't agree with aren't supposed to reach you, so you can pretend they don't exist.

Because people can't have different opinions on things./s
Last edited by Namethatworks; Jul 26, 2024 @ 11:10pm
Fomin Jul 27, 2024 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Namethatworks:

He likes Demon's Souls. The remakes review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEH3btSR3os&ab_channel=TheEscapist

Here's the thing you can disagree with a reviewer's review on a game. Not liking their opinion on one game shouldn't nullify all of their reviews.(that's some black & white thinking) Unless you just want to perpetuate a echo chamber.(only opinions you agree with are valid)

Which from the sounds of this post(& just how you react & act) you are making for yourself. A safety bubble where things you don't agree with aren't supposed to reach you, so you can pretend they don't exist.

Because people can't have different opinions on things./s

I think you make a good point as a general principle.

Regarding the specific case of Yahtzee however, he posted a negative review for Hogwarts Legacy which was mostly just virtue-signaling about how much he hated the creator whose work that game was based on.

In light of his VERY bad take on Hogwarts Legacy (which he claimed was a terrible, boring game from a gameplay perspective) I believe that he is one of those reviewers who just says what he thinks will sound cool or make him popular. I think his about face on Demon's Souls should be viewed in that light.

On the other hand, the Angry Joe show did NOT steer me wrong on Hogwarts Legacy and I especially respect Alex who in my opinion, has better takes than Joe himself.

Having played the game myself, I believe Alex's review is quite accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocQ_vVDgHEA
Last edited by Fomin; Jul 27, 2024 @ 11:27am
Namethatworks Jul 27, 2024 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Namethatworks:

He likes Demon's Souls. The remakes review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEH3btSR3os&ab_channel=TheEscapist

Here's the thing you can disagree with a reviewer's review on a game. Not liking their opinion on one game shouldn't nullify all of their reviews.(that's some black & white thinking) Unless you just want to perpetuate a echo chamber.(only opinions you agree with are valid)

Which from the sounds of this post(& just how you react & act) you are making for yourself. A safety bubble where things you don't agree with aren't supposed to reach you, so you can pretend they don't exist.

Because people can't have different opinions on things./s

He disliked the original Demon's Souls when it came out. He also posted a negative review for Hogwarts Legacy which was mostly just virtue-signaling about how much he hated the creator whose work that game was based on.

In light of his VERY bad take on Hogwarts Legacy I believe that he is one of those reviewers who just says what he thinks will sound cool or make him popular. I think his about face on Demon's Souls should be viewed in that light.

On the other hand, the Angry Joe show did NOT steer me wrong on Hogwarts Legacy and I especially respect Alex who in my opinion has better takes than Joe himself.

Having actually played the game myself, I believe Alex's review is quite accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocQ_vVDgHEA


It took you half a day to say you only like reviewers that agree with you & your political leaning lol, lmao even.

Further proving you love your safety bubble.
Last edited by Namethatworks; Jul 27, 2024 @ 11:29am
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