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I have had some luck with them but now that i think about it yeah the combo was item reliant, in particular combining the support surge user with the lady who AEO heals, the surge user gives mana regen and the AEO healer had an item that gave energy for every X amount of healing done, kind of both feeding off eachother. Also the warlock surge user's spell (summons the booki) can hit very hard. Sorry i dont pay attention to their names.