Beta 0.10.0: Intentional new gameplay or bug?

[Holgerli]

After completing the Tower of Babel at level 5, I have reached Ascension Tier 2.

But I don't understand the point of the new game principle. While I start again with straw hut and spear (defacto level 1) in the skill tree, the starting level that is displayed is level 40. The crisis before “Devision of Labor” is correspondingly level 47. So there I am with my two archer level 4 or 5 and try to survive a crisis level 47. I manage it by building “Hill Forts” like hell and thus achieve a blocking of 99.9999+%.

If I actively attack a village or tribe in my area, this is also level 40+. The whole thing feels like Stone Age man vs. 21st century army.

Is this a bug or is it really intentional?

[Ondrej Homola]

This is somewhat intentional but i'm still balancing the actual difficulty bump. It appears to be a bit too difficult early on. There is a huge difference between builds that work at the end of tier 1 and builds that work on T2. I expect this will need one or two patches during beta to get smoothed out.

[TairaSayo]

some feedback:
Some resource modifiers are not applied during crisis, this needs to be telegraphed (unless this is a bug)
Crisis disadvantage is a great idea, but torns is kinda stupid, you are forced to either kill citizens yourself or allow crisis to do it with no way out (walls are useless due to unblockable parts). Can I split torns in two with only one of normal/heavy units would do self-damage



Oligarchy is still the best government BTW ^_^

[Holgerli]

@Ondrej Homola:
I would be very happy if there were some adjustments here. At the moment, I feel more like an ant that is simply trampled to death in a fight like this. To stay with the image: At least the strength of a pitbull wouldn't be bad, so that I can at least bite my opponent's calves, even if it's still not even remotely a fair fight.

[Craft4]

agreed here, i started the new ascension and when i had 1 milita and 1 archer with roughly 10dmg i got bashed by a lvl 44 crisis?

It just takes 1 hit and my civilization is fallen - and i had that now multiple times - i am not even through with my 4th research.

Am i doing something wrong? all my best heros from before can do nothing?

[Ryan/Cooper]

My best strat is, spamming walls/fortress but everytime I get in a crisis loop ... I spam walls just to see that 3-4 crisis are waiting for me ... death loop ...

[Craft4]

No seriously, how to do anything in the new ascension right now other than just die constantly?

[shanca]

Originally posted by Craft4:

No seriously, how to do anything in the new ascension right now other than just die constantly?

For the first levels, try to not explore / do quests and wait until you get hill forts. Then, rush quarry. Spamming forts will get you far. I try to get just one mamooth/lizard to get the food bonus and get higher pop (= higher science) and i stop exploring then until my build starts to be in order.

Use magnitude improvement ! If you have a hero with a +stone/sec, use it on your quarry workshop. If not, use it on your max level quarries improvements. Increasing the magnitude of an improvement is basically adding another max level improvement for a 2 workers cost, which is cheap compared to expanding on the map.

There are some traps though : don't use it on food unless you're really starved for science (+35% food is not worth 2 workers) or on fortresses/villages

[Galaxar7]

this new update has made such changes that after moving to a new era I have barbarian attacks, crises and cataclysms every 10 - 20 sec every is 48lev.

[Angelmarauder]

Well I like the new nightmare difficulty. I just wish I could find a way out of dying so many times ;)

Those huns wipe me every time and I can only do a percent or two damage. I'm starting to try to save my colossus stacks and use my faster wonder charging hero.

We'll see!