Samurai Jack

[[Unbound]]

Bro has more range than most projectiles for melee attacks, good animations for natural dodges, just overall completely busted.

[AndyT2G]

He is pretty great, but not really OP. He has mad whiff lag on all of his moves and his jumps suck ass.

[Bullets don't go where I aim]

He's getting some nerfs this next friday

[Augustus Gloop]

Originally posted by Spectre Divide Waiting room:

He's getting some nerfs this next friday

Good. Dude is way op.

[freeaakr]

Originally posted by AndyT2G:

He is pretty great, but not really OP. He has mad whiff lag on all of his moves and his jumps suck ass.

I thought he was strong but not OP too. Then i played vs him as Superman. Even though i won, it was such a chore... Jack was better in every single way - his range, his start-up, his on hit recovery, his whiff recovery. At some point i saw him cancel a whiffed side special into a side normal... At a couple of instances we both his each other with a side normal at the same time, and he recovered and hit me with another one before i could recover from the first one...
Jack definitely needs some more whiff lag, especially on his side special, and some hit box adjustments (but that's true for most characters...). And i'm saying that as someone who really likes playing as Jack.

[Red Death]

In a game with Finn, Shaggy, LeBron, Tom, Superman, Wonder Woman, Morty, Steven, Joker, Batman, Iron Giant....yeah Jack is not overpowered.

Jack has one good zoning move, which comes with a massive telegraph and can be easily parried. He has no true combos and relies purely on predicts.

He is basically a slower, clunkier Finn with no combos and whiffs on every move. He kind of sucks really, people just aren't used to him because he's new. Everyone complains about the new character, but he's really in the bottom half of characters.

He doesn't need nerfs, he needs his hitboxes fixed like every other character in the game. But PFG doesn't know what the hell they're doing so they'll probably nerf him anyways.

[Red Death]

Originally posted by freeaakr:

Originally posted by AndyT2G:

He is pretty great, but not really OP. He has mad whiff lag on all of his moves and his jumps suck ass.

I thought he was strong but not OP too. Then i played vs him as Superman. Even though i won, it was such a chore... Jack was better in every single way - his range, his start-up, his on hit recovery, his whiff recovery. At some point i saw him cancel a whiffed side special into a side normal... At a couple of instances we both his each other with a side normal at the same time, and he recovered and hit me with another one before i could recover from the first one...
Jack definitely needs some more whiff lag, especially on his side special, and some hit box adjustments (but that's true for most characters...). And i'm saying that as someone who really likes playing as Jack.

If you struggle Vs Jack as Superman...what are you doing. Superman is faster, has an air game and can armor through all of Jack's biggest threats.

Jack struggles hard against armor users and zoners, he's only good against other straightforward characters like Jake and Banana Guard.

[mythdetecters]

Originally posted by Red Death:

In a game with Finn, Shaggy, LeBron, Tom, Superman, Wonder Woman, Morty, Steven, Joker, Batman, Iron Giant....yeah Jack is not overpowered.

Jack has one good zoning move, which comes with a massive telegraph and can be easily parried. He has no true combos and relies purely on predicts.

He is basically a slower, clunkier Finn with no combos and whiffs on every move. He kind of sucks really, people just aren't used to him because he's new. Everyone complains about the new character, but he's really in the bottom half of characters.

He doesn't need nerfs, he needs his hitboxes fixed like every other character in the game. But PFG doesn't know what the hell they're doing so they'll probably nerf him anyways.

The rest, sure. But Joker takes some serious speed and skill to actually be a problem. He has hug whiff lag on almost every attack, his side special is beyond next to useless against most opponents unless you catch em off guard in some way, and even then you aren't charging it up.

he's strong, but not even remotely in the same camp as some of those others. Batman being particularly insane.

Morty is also not an issue anymore, If you are struggling against him, you gotta learn to play around his grenades, because his mudwall is now broken. No. not OP, nor broken as in just bad. But ACTUALLY broken by intention.... they straight up gave it input delay.

Imagine any other character doing their' best move, but it taking a whole second to activate after you press the button/ release in mudwalls case.

Hitboxes and hurtboxes across the board need fixed. Joker for example has a hurtbox on the actual fish of his jab and his attacks sometimes will just pass through an opponent even if the enemy is not dodging.

[randombattle]

Players first!
Players of the newest character that is.

[Sallesman]

Even without any nerf Jack is completely predictable. Any new character seems OP because we don't know what he can do, but tbh right now I win against Jack far more easily than the other characters, even using slower characters like Black Adam.

I think the big problem is with new people because he is easy to play and spam, so yeah a little nerf isn't bad.