Neo or Morpheus Discussion

[Juken]

Who should come first and how could their moveset be cooler than Smith's?

[Juken]

I think the matrix is very closely intertwined with the multiverse concept so they should really have all 3.

[BIG DADDY]

Originally posted by Juken:

Who should come first and how could their moveset be cooler than Smith's?

neo because he's the man, next the architect because he's the old man, then the albino twins because they're weird gay vampires, and lastly we can have cypher with a morpheous skin

[LKatsu!]

trinity, naiobe, link, morpheus, switch, seraph, merovingio, maybe even bugs? shes cool af...

[Sleepy Sniper Sleepy Sniper Slpy]

Instead of Neo they should have Jon Wick so Agent Smith can make the same comments he makes about Shaggy to him while also Wick can have positive interactions with Jake, Reindog and Scooby Doo.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

None of them. Morpheus & Agent Smith are both just Neo but weaker. They're all basically the same character, power-wise. They don't do different things, it's just Smith does less than Neo (except for the duplicating thing) and Morpheus does less than Smith.

If they were adding another Matrix character, which I don't think they should, it should be someone like the Twins or... Yeah just the Twins really. I can't think of anyone else in the movies who isn't just Neo but weaker.

Edit: Actually the characters in real life aren't just Neo but weaker. Although I don't think they'd make good characters in an FG. The mech suits don't really do anything except shoot the guns and have trouble moving, and the sentinels don't really do anything except have tentacles and shoot lasers. Sentinels could be a rift thing I guess.

[Juken]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

None of them. Morpheus & Agent Smith are both just Neo but weaker. They're all basically the same character, power-wise. They don't do different things, it's just Smith does less than Neo (except for the duplicating thing) and Morpheus does less than Smith.

If they were adding another Matrix character, which I don't think they should, it should be someone like the Twins or... Yeah just the Twins really. I can't think of anyone else in the movies who isn't just Neo but weaker.

Edit: Actually the characters in real life aren't just Neo but weaker. Although I don't think they'd make good characters in an FG. The mech suits don't really do anything except shoot the guns and have trouble moving, and the sentinels don't really do anything except have tentacles and shoot lasers. Sentinels could be a rift thing I guess.

At least in the first Matrix, Neo duel wielded and fought differently. He could fly into people and have them explode. They could all just technically be skins though since they Matrix moves Smith does IS technically enough.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Juken:

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

None of them. Morpheus & Agent Smith are both just Neo but weaker. They're all basically the same character, power-wise. They don't do different things, it's just Smith does less than Neo (except for the duplicating thing) and Morpheus does less than Smith.

If they were adding another Matrix character, which I don't think they should, it should be someone like the Twins or... Yeah just the Twins really. I can't think of anyone else in the movies who isn't just Neo but weaker.

Edit: Actually the characters in real life aren't just Neo but weaker. Although I don't think they'd make good characters in an FG. The mech suits don't really do anything except shoot the guns and have trouble moving, and the sentinels don't really do anything except have tentacles and shoot lasers. Sentinels could be a rift thing I guess.

At least in the first Matrix, Neo duel wielded and fought differently. He could fly into people and have them explode. They could all just technically be skins though since they Matrix moves Smith does IS technically enough.

In the first film he doesn't fight differently, he just has less stuff. He still shoots guns at people, he's still proficient in melee combat blocking most attacks, he still dodges bullets, he still jumps around. The only difference between Neo in M1 and Neo in M2 & M3 is that in M1 he can't fly and performs worse in fights. He didn't transition from one fighting style to another in the later films, he just became really overpowered with the same one.

Since Neo is so similar to Agent Smith if he were to be added it would have to be really fanfictiony and made up to differentiate him from Smith. Call in sentinels as attacks and such.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Originally posted by Juken:

Who should come first and how could their moveset be cooler than Smith's?

I would honestly just like a new Matrix game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkJIQg0qOVU

Edit: As I watch the combat, it reminds me of Jet Li's Rise to Honor game lol

[NixEmotions]

Trinity is the only correct answer

[freeaakr]

Originally posted by Sleepy Sniper Sleepy Sniper Slpy:

Instead of Neo they should have Jon Wick so Agent Smith can make the same comments he makes about Shaggy to him while also Wick can have positive interactions with Jake, Reindog and Scooby Doo.

Why John Wick INSTEAD of Neo? Why not both?

[freeaakr]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

None of them. Morpheus & Agent Smith are both just Neo but weaker. They're all basically the same character, power-wise. They don't do different things, it's just Smith does less than Neo (except for the duplicating thing) and Morpheus does less than Smith.

If they were adding another Matrix character, which I don't think they should, it should be someone like the Twins or... Yeah just the Twins really. I can't think of anyone else in the movies who isn't just Neo but weaker.

Edit: Actually the characters in real life aren't just Neo but weaker. Although I don't think they'd make good characters in an FG. The mech suits don't really do anything except shoot the guns and have trouble moving, and the sentinels don't really do anything except have tentacles and shoot lasers. Sentinels could be a rift thing I guess.

I think you're looking at it wrong. It's not about power level or general abilities. It's about what move list the character could have. Look at Morty - in the show he doesn't have a signature move set, but they picked different things from different episodes, and we got grenades, giant arm, pulling Hammer Morty out of a portal, and elemental rings.
The game has 4 sword characters now and they all fight differently.

So the real question is not what Neo and Morpheus can do in the movies, or how different it is from Smith. The question is how it translates into moves for the game. Neo could have flight as part of his moves, and upward launch similar to Rick, a projectile stop/reflect, a spin around a pole, while Morpheus can use a sub machine gun and a katana, or have the operator load in other weapons for him to use. It's all about creatively adapting different moves they use in the source material, to form a play style.

Look at Omni-man and Homelander in Mortal Kombat 1. Practically the same powers, but very different play styles.

[freeaakr]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

None of them. Morpheus & Agent Smith are both just Neo but weaker. They're all basically the same character, power-wise. They don't do different things, it's just Smith does less than Neo (except for the duplicating thing) and Morpheus does less than Smith.

If they were adding another Matrix character, which I don't think they should, it should be someone like the Twins or... Yeah just the Twins really. I can't think of anyone else in the movies who isn't just Neo but weaker.

Edit: Actually the characters in real life aren't just Neo but weaker. Although I don't think they'd make good characters in an FG. The mech suits don't really do anything except shoot the guns and have trouble moving, and the sentinels don't really do anything except have tentacles and shoot lasers. Sentinels could be a rift thing I guess.

But yeah, they should totally add the Twins. Those guys were awesome!