Unlock all the characters for everyone.

[Trucker jo]

I know that you love your predatory money practices and more than likely the corpros at WB have you ruining the game for them so they can make more money, but PLEASE if anyone is reading the discussion pages, reddit, or the discord. You have to unlock all the characters for everyone convince WB.

I don't know why you guys would think you'd sell more skins and earn more money by locking all the characters behind a paywall even if that paywall is in-game currency that takes too long to get. Making people pay for characters is like a very small insignificant amount of money you'd make compared to giving us all the characters to play with and then us unlocking the all the skins for a character because we din't have spend hours unlocking them.

You guys have to do convince WB to have a more consumer firendly business practice.

[Netsa]

Not only are they not going to do that, no one's going to argue for them to do that.

Personally, I think it would be great, but it's not going to happen. They actually make quite a bit of money on locking characters like this since it gives players a goal to strive for. Especially given that they ripped out several other possible goals leaving nothing but the Battle Pass, if they gave everyone the characters for free, people would probably stop playing the game for as long.

Not that their current strategy is any good. There's so few ways of getting character tokens that it essentially punishes long play sessions, since if you aren't doing quests, you don't get anything.

It's probably why Battle Pass progression is being locked down so hard. Once it's finished, there's no reason to play the game anymore.

[Chibbix]

Originally posted by Netsa:

since it gives players a goal to strive for. Especially given that they ripped out several other possible goals leaving nothing but the Battle Pass, if they gave everyone the characters for free, people would probably stop playing the game for as long.

Worked out great for them in the open beta. 150k to 22k in two months.

How many does Smite have on an average 30 days? 3.8 million? Might be worth it for WB to totally axe this current marketing team making them commit financial seppuku.

[Milkdust]

Multiversus is the new "pride and accomplishment" game.

[Xetelian]

The fact that multiversus isn't trending on launch says a lot and the fact that we're down in player count again is why no one cares and it sucks because I care. I didn't get to play smash as a kid and this is a lot of fun but its built like a F2P mobile game and the very least they could let you have the characters without struggle if they're going to make quests around it.


Daily quests that require certain things that mean you need to unlock champions would have trended but not enough people care about improving this game.

The doomers aren't wrong this game is garbage.
The fans aren't wrong because if it wasn't WB it would have potential

Both sides need to commiserate

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Chibbix:

Originally posted by Netsa:

since it gives players a goal to strive for. Especially given that they ripped out several other possible goals leaving nothing but the Battle Pass, if they gave everyone the characters for free, people would probably stop playing the game for as long.

Worked out great for them in the open beta. 150k to 22k in two months.

How many does Smite have on an average 30 days? 3.8 million? Might be worth it for WB to totally axe this current marketing team making them commit financial seppuku.

What does any of that have to do with whether the characters are free? The beta didn't lose people because of that.

If you want to bring up random games, League of Legends doesn't have free characters and it's one of the most popular games in the world.

[Chibbix]

Originally posted by Netsa:

If you want to bring up random games, League of Legends doesn't have free characters and it's one of the most popular games in the world.

League also has a comprehensive in game economy that people can use to get more champions that you get for playing each match (WHAT A CONCEPT!), gave random free (or dependant on season or whatever) champions to each new account, and was very involved and communicated frequently with its community (least starting out).

Also, you're kinda wrong on that whole claim, as LoL does indeed offer "bundles", including a "all champions, now and future" one that did, periodically, come on sale now and then, again, at least back in the day. I certainly never bought "demon pants edgelord" Vargus, yet I owned him on release.

Originally posted by Netsa:

The beta didn't lose players because of that.

You sure? I feel like some people being jilted by their crappy character purchases might of had something to do with it loosing 130k players in 3 months.

[Want More?]

[Magical_JiJii]

Its not hard to unlock the first character but from then everything are sooo grindy and I am starting to lose interest. I buy skins alot but there is no way I am paying to buy a character, especially when I can't even try em in advance.

[Yoda Nobunaga]

If you wanna make players spend money through gatekeeping, you need to be generous to the point they can *almost* get what they want without money. It needs to be just annoying enough to give a reason to buy but not so annoying that there's no reason to bother.

This game is so far to the "too annoying" side that I bet their profits have suffered for it.

[Netsa]

Want more of what...?

Originally posted by Chibbix:

League also has a comprehensive in game economy that people can use to get more champions that you get for playing each match (WHAT A CONCEPT!), gave random free (or dependant on season or whatever) champions to each new account, and was very involved and communicated frequently with its community (least starting out).

Also, you're kinda wrong on that whole claim, as LoL does indeed offer "bundles", including a "all champions, now and future" one that did, periodically, come on sale now and then, again, at least back in the day. I certainly never bought "demon pants edgelord" Vargus, yet I owned him on release.

You sure? I feel like some people being jilted by their crappy character purchases might of had something to do with it loosing 130k players in 3 months.

[Want More?]

So in other words, you just want them to bring back Gold? The OP isn't asking for that, they're asking for all characters to be immediately unlocked. Buying them or buying a bundle isn't "unlocking all characters for everyone for free".

And yes, I'm quite sure that character unlocking isn't why any significant number of players left during the beta. The beta let you try characters in the Training mode.

[OfficerNasty]

At least make them available in training...

[KripTed]

They won't. It's called greed.