Take out projectiles

[Mr. Wipe me down]

Very simple, its a fighting game. If you wanna play with projectiles, go play a shooter. You bum

[Bobr]

Nguyên văn bởi Netsa:

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

his stats are only slightly better than mine

TastyPlacebo, right? Did you look at his stats at all? Yours are actually better than his, it just doesn't matter since you're both floating in the millions where nothing really makes a difference.

fr? fr? i actually didn't look at his stats at all. Just his W/L ratio lmao.

[Netsa]

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

fr? fr? i actually didn't look at his stats at all. Just his W/L ratio lmao.

Yeah, he has a better win/loss, but MMR isn't determined by win/loss. Higher wins but a lower MMR means you've basically played tons of games, but lost every time you fought someone good.

Low wins but slightly-higher MMR could mean your performance is overall a little bit better, but you have trouble finishing off the enemy (I'm just guessing).

[JoeyQ]

Nguyên văn bởi Netsa:

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

fr? fr? i actually didn't look at his stats at all. Just his W/L ratio lmao.

Yeah, he has a better win/loss, but MMR isn't determined by win/loss. Higher wins but a lower MMR means you've basically played tons of games, but lost every time you fought someone good.

Low wins but slightly-higher MMR could mean your performance is overall a little bit better, but you have trouble finishing off the enemy (I'm just guessing).

Oh so that's how it works! I didn't know that. Good info tho, thank you! I'll work on getting better to increase that MMR then. I heard it was a little wonky with MV but that there will be a change to it somehow?

[JoeyQ]

Nguyên văn bởi RetroACE135:

Nguyên văn bởi Netsa:

I know, right? Letters are getting spaced out, insults are getting thrown, Shaggy's getting taken off the leash, no one knows what MMR is, it's pretty hot in here.

I don't have any popcorn, but I do have some sentient snow cones. :2016snocone::2016snocone:

Wait, aren't those friends of PB? Like, I can't eat them! They are groovy!

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

TLDR:

Joey has a schizo meltdown cause I don't like his game, starts replying to replies that don't relate to him at all, calls me a sadboy incel, stays up to 2am on a week night while preaching that he's such a bastion of kindness and normalcy and he has relationships and touches grass (unprompted), then stalks me online.

Can OP pin this comment as the answer to the thread please?

But you respond to his arguments and try to prove him wrong and insult him.

Like, you shared you're profile with him, and he's watching your stats to try and figure out what's wrong, man. Like, technically he isn't stalking if you told him to look at your stats... Just sayin', man.

Yeaaaaah but i gotta be honest: i was curious to see if he was actually going to keep playing the game even though he said it was a bad game and talked a lot of ♥♥♥♥ about it. I'm glad to see he keeps coming back to it though! Means it's not so bad that it warrants an uninstall.

[Netsa]

Nguyên văn bởi JoeyQ:

Nguyên văn bởi Netsa:

Yeah, he has a better win/loss, but MMR isn't determined by win/loss. Higher wins but a lower MMR means you've basically played tons of games, but lost every time you fought someone good.

Low wins but slightly-higher MMR could mean your performance is overall a little bit better, but you have trouble finishing off the enemy (I'm just guessing).

Oh so that's how it works! I didn't know that. Good info tho, thank you! I'll work on getting better to increase that MMR then. I heard it was a little wonky with MV but that there will be a change to it somehow?

I don't know, I heard the update would have a lot of stuff. Maybe someone who follows their Twitter knows more?

Yeah it is wonky and annoying to grind, since it means 1 match in 10 sometimes will affect your MMR all that much, and sometimes that 1 match will drop you. Actually feel kind of toxic raising my MMR, since I only care about a few of the players that show up and I can't have fun unless I'm playing someone who isn't my main. x_x
Can't wait for ranked.

[BackUpHero]

Superman's ice breath counters projectiles, Jake's down special counters projectiles...man do some research before making post like this.

[JoeyQ]

Nguyên văn bởi Netsa:

Nguyên văn bởi JoeyQ:

Oh so that's how it works! I didn't know that. Good info tho, thank you! I'll work on getting better to increase that MMR then. I heard it was a little wonky with MV but that there will be a change to it somehow?

I don't know, I heard the update would have a lot of stuff. Maybe someone who follows their Twitter knows more?

Yeah it is wonky and annoying to grind, since it means 1 match in 10 sometimes will affect your MMR all that much, and sometimes that 1 match will drop you. Actually feel kind of toxic raising my MMR, since I only care about a few of the players that show up and I can't have fun unless I'm playing someone who isn't my main. x_x
Can't wait for ranked.

I'm really looking forward to the patch notes once season 1 begins. It's the official game launch so fingers crossed that they have good things in store for us. This is their trial by fire for me. How they do at launch kinda sets the pace for what we can expect.

Yeah i was wondering how MMR worked in MV. I just paid no mind to it and dismissed it because of that wonkiness. Hopefully ranked will make competitive more fun. From what you're telling me, MMR doesn't sound like something I wanna focus on rn 🤣

[JoeyQ]

Nguyên văn bởi BackUpHero:

Superman's ice breath counters projectiles, Jake's down special counters projectiles...man do some research before making post like this.

I totally forgot about superman's ice breath! NGL... I kinda neglect using it whenever i play Superman lmao. Idk why 🤣

[Faefu]

reminds me of the days when sweeping the leg spam was very effective. the downside was getting hit in the arm for real.

[RetroACE135]

Like I said in an earlier post (that got lost in a very passionate discussion), Taz is also an anti-projectile fighter.

Earlier tonight, I played against a LeBron in a 1v1. I kept using my Neutral Special and eating his basketbal whenever he threw it to me. Poor guy didn't know what to do. XD

Also, when Taz eats a projectile, he can also burp it back up with Down Special and use it against the opponent. Taz's Iron Stomach perk can even turn it into an anvil for extra fun.

Me like Taz. Taz like projectile. Projectile taste like Chicken. Taz like Chicken, just like Rabbit.

[2025]

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

Nguyên văn bởi zxczaya:

every fighter has their own way of dealing with projectiles, ww has hyper armor, supes can fly, batman can grapple and quickly get in on zoners, etc. it's not like ur being held hostage by a slow reindog spamming neutral light lmao

Character dependent gimmicks that don't work most of the time isn't really a dedicated counter to projectiles.

add me and 1v1 me in the game and i will show u how to destroy a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ spamming projectiles and running away. velma, reindog, bugs bunny, etc.

[Lazarus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXipqyf0o90

[Sunset Margatroid]

did a velma or bugs got you that bad huh

[Mr. Wipe me down]

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

TLDR:

Joey has a schizo meltdown cause I don't like his game, starts replying to replies that don't relate to him at all, calls me a sadboy incel, stays up to 2am on a week night while preaching that he's such a bastion of kindness and normalcy and he has relationships and touches grass (unprompted), then stalks me online.

Can OP pin this comment as the answer to the thread please?

https://tracker.gg/multiversus/profile/wb/62f080fb96942815825345cf/overview these are my stats so i can make it known i am aware of how this game works. I still think projectiles need nerfs or something. All of the ways the other guys listed how to counter, gets you wrecked. Its to much to explain. I agree with you Bobr. I play street fighter 5, Tekken 7 (main) Super smash ultimate and killer instinct. All of those games have way better options for projectile counter, making projectile spammers suffer for not being conservative with them. This game however just does not give you enough kit to counter said game play. If you have to spam projectiles, I just see it as you accept that you cant figure the game out on a mechanical level and have gave up into an easier option that allows minimal effort for maximum reward. Its sad to see this garbage in fighting games but you get a bigger audience by throwing in characters to help those less skilled (projectile spammers). If someone projectile spams, i just suicide to get the match over with, i wanna fight someone who uses skill and good mechanics, not someone looking for a cheap win because their brain cant comprehend a fighting games mechanics.

[Sayla Massochist]

Nguyên văn bởi Mr. Wipe me down:

Nguyên văn bởi Bobr:

TLDR:

Joey has a schizo meltdown cause I don't like his game, starts replying to replies that don't relate to him at all, calls me a sadboy incel, stays up to 2am on a week night while preaching that he's such a bastion of kindness and normalcy and he has relationships and touches grass (unprompted), then stalks me online.

Can OP pin this comment as the answer to the thread please?

https://tracker.gg/multiversus/profile/wb/62f080fb96942815825345cf/overview these are my stats so i can make it known i am aware of how this game works. I still think projectiles need nerfs or something. All of the ways the other guys listed how to counter, gets you wrecked. Its to much to explain. I agree with you Bobr. I play street fighter 5, Tekken 7 (main) Super smash ultimate and killer instinct. All of those games have way better options for projectile counter, making projectile spammers suffer for not being conservative with them. This game however just does not give you enough kit to counter said game play. If you have to spam projectiles, I just see it as you accept that you cant figure the game out on a mechanical level and have gave up into an easier option that allows minimal effort for maximum reward. Its sad to see this garbage in fighting games but you get a bigger audience by throwing in characters to help those less skilled (projectile spammers). If someone projectile spams, i just suicide to get the match over with, i wanna fight someone who uses skill and good mechanics, not someone looking for a cheap win because their brain cant comprehend a fighting games mechanics.

The issue would then mean that every character would require a full remake for their entire kit. The characters more dependent on projectiles don't really have the tools to properly stand and fight against most other characters. Velma's non projectile attacks you can't string together in the same way you can string Lebron, Harley, etc into. She has to run and projectile. It's literally the way she is intended to be played. Her melee attacks are more focused on knocking people back and creating space so she can fire her projectiles. They legit aren't intended for her to stand and try to melee combo like most other characters.