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Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 22 日 上午 9:08
Straight up unplayable
So me and my friends wanted to go farm a little in Red Forest and both of us have early north gear (ASVal , AN94 , KZS5 with a couple grey green artifacts +5) get matched with 2 end game geared players (FN2000+10/Aek +10 , Centurion+8 , Hive Container with full +10 pink rarity artifacts) and wonder how is this fair?

I died 10 times to these guys and then they also proceed to BM us , even when we get first shot chance we barely damage them with AP rounds. Was excited for the update but my point still stands that instance matchmaking is extremely unfair with people having better gear than those of who go into Limansk rolling North farmers.

In what world it makes sense to make this sort of matchmaking? I get it in some instances it makes you pay to buy better gear as it's a P2W F2P MMOFPS but these 10 deaths simply put ruined my whole mood and experience.

There really should be gear based matchmaking because this was unfair from every single point of view.

Welp another game straight into the bin
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Ronald 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 12:09 
how is this game p2w?
Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 12:32 
引用自 Ronald
how is this game p2w?

You can buy and sell Premium for in game currency , that is the definition of P2W and it will be even worse when you can straight up buy any gear like in RU version. The game is light on the grinding aspect as I got to north in just under 2 weeks of playing with almost a fully completed skat9 , kzs , an94m and some decent artifacts however matching low gear players with straight up maxed players is simply idiotic.

Yes there should be risk involved however a guy with 2 upgrades to his weapon (say +6 to +8) can buy my whole progress several times with almost the entry gear for endgame is just insane to play against. I repeat even when I get first shot chance it's basically impossible to kill them due to gear diff and if you pair that with working hands he can just turn around to mow you down in 1.5 seconds.

If you don't understand the point I am trying to make you are clearly delusional and unfit for this discussion :steamhappy:
Ronald 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 Ambatu Kham
引用自 Ronald
how is this game p2w?

You can buy and sell Premium for in game currency
I actually didn't know this, but even so, most things still require you to farm for barter items, money is only a small part of the equation. Sure you can buy the best artifacts in the game from auctions but you still need to craft the containers needed to house them.
Yes it is bad but it's a necessary evil, unless you want them to start locking content behind a paywall.

Also people are already being separated by gear progression, but the implementation of it is a bit lazy.
Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 3:02 
引用自 Ronald
引用自 Ambatu Kham

You can buy and sell Premium for in game currency
I actually didn't know this, but even so, most things still require you to farm for barter items, money is only a small part of the equation. Sure you can buy the best artifacts in the game from auctions but you still need to craft the containers needed to house them.
Yes it is bad but it's a necessary evil, unless you want them to start locking content behind a paywall.

Also people are already being separated by gear progression, but the implementation of it is a bit lazy.

I don't mind either but I also don't want to waste my time if I am getting matched in same lobby with people that have several times the progress of my entire account and by that I mean the players rolling newbies like myself when they have maxed out gear such as AEK/F2K +10 paired with full +10 artifacts in a hive container.

I doubt there is much separation if any either way I am done with the game for now until they either enforce an actual bracket system based on gear along side upgraded gear giving higher gear score (right now the difference between a +0 and +10 gear are the stats only while maintaining the same gear score) or implement said purchaseable BiS gear so I can drop a few hundred and skip this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

That's about it.
John Henry Eden 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 6:17 
lets say you spend 70 dollars on cod (for example) and then next year the game is outdated right

you spend 70 dollars in a game like stalcraft, and youre golden, i understand some people dont like it, but that same 70 you would spend on cod, could go to something that you actually play, so even if you evaluate this game at 20 dollars, you could spend 20, thats why some people buy things in free games, free games have some of the best development teams when it comes to quashing bugs and problems, so id rather support them, another example of a good company ( in my opinion ) is gaijin
Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 1:33 
引用自 Stevanator
lets say you spend 70 dollars on cod (for example) and then next year the game is outdated right

you spend 70 dollars in a game like stalcraft, and youre golden, i understand some people dont like it, but that same 70 you would spend on cod, could go to something that you actually play, so even if you evaluate this game at 20 dollars, you could spend 20, thats why some people buy things in free games, free games have some of the best development teams when it comes to quashing bugs and problems, so id rather support them, another example of a good company ( in my opinion ) is gaijin

Even though I purchased every Crossout BP along with several packs (Gaijin developed game) the devs are incredibly stupid and killing their own game through different dumb choice i.e not nerfing hovers (I own them so it's not a matter of not going meta but it's simply dumb choices that alienate their playerbase) in Crossout making any other movement part less effective because paying players eat hovers up like candy and same goes with this idiotic matchmaking in Stalcraft where if maxed out people couldn't get their power trip by mowing down green leaves they would most likely cry to Exbo.

While I share your opinion with free titles as opposed to paid games since I do play several F2P MMOs where I shelled out money , one such example for myself would be Metin2 official servers which I've been playing for the past 4 years now and around 1500$ spent on it , yes it is a bit excessive however I don't play many other games nor is the value really lost there since currency selling is extremely common.

As I mentioned I don't mind P2W but I would like a relatively fair matchmaking where I stand a chance and not get melted the moment their crosshair meets me and this could be fixed easily with the already implemented gear rating system (similar to crossout where you wouldn't get in a 12k PS game while you yourself are at 10k PS) and have me face similar to slightly worse/better enemies not light years ahead players.
Miskyavine 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:07 
This game isnt pay to win its Hack/ESP to win Exbo doesnt even ban them for more then a week and even then you can just play on another character on the same account just look at the Pitshants everyone knows they hack and ESP along with several other covenants but there simp army comes in and cries so Exbo unbans them so they can continue griefing players with half there gearscore. False ban my ass lmao.

This game is all Gearscore and who has the better hacks thats it not a single shred of skill goes into this game tbh, Its all random numbers and who hacks better. Most FPS games today have a 1 in 3 hacker rate this game has to be over 50% at this point. You could ban the top 150 players and not ban a single innocent player i would bet hard money on that.
最后由 Miskyavine 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:09
Amadel 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:25 
Hackers are banned every so often, haven't seen all that much in comparison with other games, so are in the wrong here. Helped to ban 2 of them in my playtime, so reports are working. The game could be considered pay to skip, not pay to win. People are grouped up together depending on their gear (not gear score). So if you have 0 experience in pvp and other activities and just donate to get the best items you will still suck hard. Playing the game without any rush is the best option. And regarding op's post I can say that ♥♥♥♥ happens. Things like that can happen if there are not enough people on the server, so some higher/ lower tier lads can squeeze in. Maybe they are still in calibrations process. There are many factors here. Just keep playing and do your best
Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:52 
引用自 Amadel
Hackers are banned every so often, haven't seen all that much in comparison with other games, so are in the wrong here. Helped to ban 2 of them in my playtime, so reports are working. The game could be considered pay to skip, not pay to win. People are grouped up together depending on their gear (not gear score). So if you have 0 experience in pvp and other activities and just donate to get the best items you will still suck hard. Playing the game without any rush is the best option. And regarding op's post I can say that ♥♥♥♥ happens. Things like that can happen if there are not enough people on the server, so some higher/ lower tier lads can squeeze in. Maybe they are still in calibrations process. There are many factors here. Just keep playing and do your best

I agree that I haven't met as many hackers as before the report system rework however grouping seems to be all over horrible and ever since the update I tried 3 different time points when it comes to server population.

5AM for me during the report system rework UI , I had North with maybe 4-5 people besides me with similar gear but now 2 days in a row I meet the same type of players that have everything maxed except legendary artifacts +10 (they have epic ones instead or veteran w/e).

3-4PM for me before was unplayable but worst people I got matched against had VSS Centurion +5 and again I still meet the same people I mentioned in the 5AM paragraph.

10-11PM has slightly lower population than 3-4PM but still just as bad.

I am definitely not the worst at the game as I have a almost 2.0 KD but with current situation green leaves are being gatekept hard from farming north.

Yes you could technically farm 1 camp and extract but that is such an awful experience that I would rather just not play and farming anomalous rifts or protoclusters for raw rubbles to buy materials simply would take too much time. I am used to farming a lot of currency for endgame gear (Warframe- BiS Riven mod , Metin2- Excellent alchemy piece) but these are END END game items unlike a Skat 9/Centurion which is an entrypoint item as it's not even upgraded.

Either way you look at it the situation is horrendous for lower gear players. If you are relatively well geared you might not see the issue but it's simply become unbearable to keep dying to the same type of players with maxed gear.

Regarding your pay to skip point I argue it as the same thing as p2w , many of the MMOs I played can be considered pay to skip as there is nothing you can't get playing free however the power spike you get by paying is insane. I know 2 people from my Metin2 guild that have over 15000 euros invested (some players on my server have over 70-80k) and the time it would take for a F2P player using normal farming methods you would sit there for a decade of farming to scratch that number of currency they get.

All MMOs on todays market are P2W be it in the form of straight up cash to currency , gear upgrading or bussing certain dungeons (LA, WoW, GW2) however most try to keep some sort of balance (you will still get matched against paying users and I have no problems with that but let me have a fighting chance if I decide to remain F2P).

Before death cam UI rework which brought the report option the game was unplayable due to cheaters but now you are simply gatekept from even farming North.
Ben 2023 年 5 月 26 日 上午 10:31 
Do not + your gear if you want to stay in lesser brackets. The devs are horrible at explaining things and with balance as broken as it is STILL. they should tell us how to stay out.
Navarome 2023 年 5 月 27 日 上午 7:38 
the problem with some of those red players are:
they are also cheaters (freedoms and convenant especially)
they acess afk servers and farm all they want with no worries
Ionut Faraon 2023 年 5 月 28 日 上午 9:01 
引用自 Ben
Do not + your gear if you want to stay in lesser brackets. The devs are horrible at explaining things and with balance as broken as it is STILL. they should tell us how to stay out.

wdym do not + your gear?? I am all +5 yet get matched with +10 AEKs and full +10 artifact builds. Are you even in north to comment on the situation?
Dimax-men 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 3:37 
引用自 Ambatu Kham
引用自 Ben
Do not + your gear if you want to stay in lesser brackets. The devs are horrible at explaining things and with balance as broken as it is STILL. they should tell us how to stay out.

wdym do not + your gear?? I am all +5 yet get matched with +10 AEKs and full +10 artifact builds. Are you even in north to comment on the situation?
Ben didnt get how balancing works with you upgrades lol. You will constantly get in pre-veteran (pink) and higher lobbies if you get any gear up to +7 and higher so wait for upgrading you gear past +5 until you are either getting you first pink gear of start going to locations higher than bar (they didnt have servers lower than pre-veterans)
At least this is how it works in RU-version.
Miskyavine 2023 年 5 月 29 日 下午 5:32 
引用自 Navarome
the problem with some of those red players are:
they are also cheaters (freedoms and convenant especially)
they acess afk servers and farm all they want with no worries
Dude its awfull cov is like 95% cheaters and the rest all simp for the cheaters dude a few of them got banned and Exbo unbanned them because Cov cried so much. Exbo literally got bullied by cheaters into unbanning cheaters so they could cheat and grief the game more...
Skringlord 2023 年 5 月 31 日 上午 2:09 
引用自 Ambatu Kham
引用自 Ben
Do not + your gear if you want to stay in lesser brackets. The devs are horrible at explaining things and with balance as broken as it is STILL. they should tell us how to stay out.

wdym do not + your gear?? I am all +5 yet get matched with +10 AEKs and full +10 artifact builds. Are you even in north to comment on the situation?

Sad to hear mate, try to focus on some quests, they will give you resources even if you can't deliver them to the base.
The problem with this game is that it's hardcore open-world PvP and not too many players which you can be sent to play with. If there will be more online players, this situation will be less common.
Load balancer can't let players play on low-population servers, because it will break the economy.
Also, a possible step is to play in prime time 6-9 PM Warsaw Time.
最后由 Skringlord 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 31 日 上午 2:09
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