is there a point to pvp?

[Cartermatic]

been reading mixed opinions on the subject. I like pvp to mean something in the game, not simply killing another player. Do I get anything of value for killing someone else?

[MALCHIK MOLODOY]

Originally posted by SaintGermain:

Well i am using strafing scripts, so i know when someone shoots at me with aim :))

Idk a lot about cheats in stalcraft but I know that many players use texture cheats for artifact hunting and some players disable recoil completely, you just need to disable anti-cheat process and find vertical recoil variable in cheat engine. Haven't seen cheats for aim, but I'm sure there is some

[Takeshi Kovacs]

The texture thing might work with Nvidia gpu's, ik in dayz people were using it to remove trees completely

[Takeshi Kovacs]

itll be a while untill cheaters learn OpenGL, since most of em only know DirectX :)))

[MALCHIK MOLODOY]

Not that type of textures. Cheaters use textures that highlight artifacts from underground and etc

[Belmont]

Considering that good chunks of the code are actually minecraft code, I wouldn't be shocked if more and more cheats/modifications make their way into the game.

How the devs handle these, remains to be seen.

[Nefartious]

Already was snipped a few times at 1600-1700, trying to figure those kills out :)

[Beefyrulz]

When you say you want PVP to 'mean something' I'm not really sure what you're expecting.
It's just fundamentally not what this game is about, or what Stalker itself is even about.
In stalker games, what's the benefit to killing human enemies? At most you usually get a handful of bullets, maybe some meds and food. Maybe if you're really lucky a slightly better condition part for your gun. It's not like Sidorovich goes, "HEY, you killed your 1,000th bandit! Here have a golden AK-47!" No it's just another day in the zone.
I mean the majority of PVP games have fundamentally meaningless PVP anyway. You run back and forth and kill each other all day and have fun, or don't. I don't think there should be any intrinsic reward for doing it other than because it's what you want to do. Otherwise it just encourages people to be toxic or exploit. Because as soon as there's a tangible benefit, people will start trying to farm it as much as possible by any means necessary.

A good example of which I think is the Dark Zones in the game "The Division". If the best gear/resources are in PVP zones, people start cheating, exploiting, abusing poorly designed/broken game mechanics all because they can get the best gear by doing it. Then it's just the rich get richer while the poor stay poor.

It's fundamentally bad for a games health and community to encourage that type of behavior.
Ultimately I think the way PVP is structured right now is perfect. If anything I think it could even be nerfed slightly to only dropping like half your ammo and meds. But even that isn't strictly necessary cuz meds and ammo are cheap as chips.

[miti_miti]

Originally posted by ✪ Cartermatic:

been reading mixed opinions on the subject. I like pvp to mean something in the game, not simply killing another player. Do I get anything of value for killing someone else?

You can kill people when they go to the base or when they are farming emissions or spots. This can bring in a lot of profit.

[ButtahNips]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Not really, aside from impeding the progress of others, you don't get a thing from doing it. "I got some ammo and meds." Grats, you got 700 rubles worth of stuff, you get that from one mutant nest... You can't get their stuff you have to sell it/auction it back to them. It just servers no purpose other than being there. It would be much better if zones were dedicated to it, not the entirety of the game.

Almost like open world PvP is designed simply for those who enjoy ruining games for other people... hmmm

[ChiefE]

The game should have full loot pvp. That would make it more rewarding.

[Beefyrulz]

Originally posted by SAUVAGE:

The game should have full loot pvp. That would make it more rewarding.

Nah that makes it significantly less rewarding.
It's way more gratifying to actually take time working your way through the progression to get higher tier weapons and gear instead of just spending 5 minutes in-game and getting a lucky shot on a high geared player.
What you really mean is you want to troll people and ruin their experience.

[Belmont]

Originally posted by SAUVAGE:

The game should have full loot pvp. That would make it more rewarding.

All that would do is make the already ridiculous camping issues worse.

[Takeshi Kovacs]

Were talking about pvp hackers here, not campers or mechanics