Please remove Denuvo.

[Loomeh]

Due to Tango being shut down, this game is most likely going to be delisted in a few years due to music licensing issues, when that happens, it's likely that HiFi Rush's implementation of Denuvo will also stop working, making all copies of the game unplayable.

Now that HiFi Rush is basically dead, please consider removing the (what is essentially a) timebomb DRM from the game.

[Loomeh]

This game's survival relies on Microsoft paying for both music licensing renewals and Denuvo costs. Which considering how cheap they are, is not likely to happen.

[Darth]

I was going to pick up this month's Humble Choice for this game but I refuse to support the bad business practice of including terrible DRM like Denuvo. Please remove Denuvo!

[Alun1]

Complaining about DRM on steam is like complaining your food is cold while standing in a freezer

[WitheredVirusN100]

I wish someone is going to crack it.
I don't want to let this game die like The Crew, because its too good to be leave as abandonware.

[nwad]

Originally posted by Alun1:

Complaining about DRM on steam is like complaining your food is cold while standing in a freezer

No, it's more like asking to not die from a thousand cuts after already getting cut the first time.

[Darth]

Originally posted by Alun1:

Complaining about DRM on steam is like complaining your food is cold while standing in a freezer

Steam provides useful features while being the most consumer-friendly DRM platform, short of something like GOG. Denuvo is purely anti-consumer with no benefits. By 'complaining' we let publishers know they would gain sales by removing Denuvo, but if they refuse to remove it I'll just continue to play the non-Denuvo games that earned my money.

[fabio.capela]

Originally posted by Darth:

Originally posted by Alun1:

Complaining about DRM on steam is like complaining your food is cold while standing in a freezer

Steam provides useful features while being the most consumer-friendly DRM platform, short of something like GOG. Denuvo is purely anti-consumer with no benefits. By 'complaining' we let publishers know they would gain sales by removing Denuvo, but if they refuse to remove it I'll just continue to play the non-Denuvo games that earned my money.

Very much this. Steam's DRM is about as effective (or annoying) as, say, a sign asking to not pirate the game, which is to say not at all; not only it doesn't cause issues, but if Steam ever disappears and its DRM servers go offline I'm 100% guaranteed to be able to crack each and every of the games I own on it and keep playing at least the offline portions of them.

This is very big in the list of reasons why I prefer Steam over, well, any other store when it comes to games that aren't available DRM-free.

Incidentally, many games on Steam are actually DRM-free. Steam doesn't mandate the use of DRM, thus many smaller games — and even some bigger ones like the Witcher franchise and Baldur's Gate 3 — .simply don't bother with it.

[Alun1]

well you all continue to complain about denuvo with your potato PC's and giving meaningless jester awards.

i'll crack on enjoying the game that runs perfectly fine.

[Loomeh]

Originally posted by Alun1:

well you all continue to complain about denuvo with your potato PC's and giving meaningless jester awards.

i'll crack on enjoying the game that runs perfectly fine.

You're completely missing the point. I'm not really complaining about Denuvo (although it does suck and is a cancer to the gaming industry). I'm complaining about Denuvo in Hi-Fi Rush.

If Microsoft stops giving money to the record labels and Irdeto (which is likely because they're cheap bastards), ALL copies of Hi-Fi Rush will be completely unplayable unless they patch the game.

So your game that "runs perfectly fine" might not run so fine in the future.


Let me explain this in as much detail as possible.

Hi-Fi Rush contains music from artists that are owned by other companies (For example, Nine Inch Nails and The Prodigy).

For Bethesda to be able to use their music in Hi-Fi Rush, they had to purchase music licenses from these companies. However, these licenses eventually expire, meaning that Microsoft will either have to pay to renew the licenses (which is not likely), patch the music out of the game (which is not likely considering they just fired all of the people who know how the game works) or delist the game from all platforms (which is likely).

If Hi-Fi Rush gets delisted, Microsoft will feel less incentive to keep paying Irdeto (the developers of Denuvo) the money needed for Hi-Fi Rush's Denuvo implementation, potentially rendering all copies of the game unplayable unless removed.

( Also for your info, I'm not on a potato PC, I can run this game at a locked 1080p 144fps at medium settings c: )

[Mr. Slave]

Considering Hi-Fi Rush landed on PS5 a while ago it will be a shame if Bethesda didn’t want to keep it alive and listed on digital stores after the Licensing for many Tracks expires. This game being lost media would really suck considering Hi-Fi Rush pretty much proved video games can still be unique and fun, Physical Editions still seem to be in Tango’s vision after they were closed down

[min3r95]

Yes, I'm totally agree.

[SR]

Originally posted by Alun1:

well you all continue to complain about denuvo with your potato PC's and giving meaningless jester awards.

i'll crack on enjoying the game that runs perfectly fine.

You're a clown thinking it's about the performance.

[CatalinW]

Originally posted by Loomeh:

Originally posted by Alun1:

well you all continue to complain about denuvo with your potato PC's and giving meaningless jester awards.

i'll crack on enjoying the game that runs perfectly fine.

You're completely missing the point. I'm not really complaining about Denuvo (although it does suck and is a cancer to the gaming industry). I'm complaining about Denuvo in Hi-Fi Rush.

If Microsoft stops giving money to the record labels and Irdeto (which is likely because they're cheap bastards), ALL copies of Hi-Fi Rush will be completely unplayable unless they patch the game.

So your game that "runs perfectly fine" might not run so fine in the future.


Let me explain this in as much detail as possible.

Hi-Fi Rush contains music from artists that are owned by other companies (For example, Nine Inch Nails and The Prodigy).

For Bethesda to be able to use their music in Hi-Fi Rush, they had to purchase music licenses from these companies. However, these licenses eventually expire, meaning that Microsoft will either have to pay to renew the licenses (which is not likely), patch the music out of the game (which is not likely considering they just fired all of the people who know how the game works) or delist the game from all platforms (which is likely).

If Hi-Fi Rush gets delisted, Microsoft will feel less incentive to keep paying Irdeto (the developers of Denuvo) the money needed for Hi-Fi Rush's Denuvo implementation, potentially rendering all copies of the game unplayable unless removed.

( Also for your info, I'm not on a potato PC, I can run this game at a locked 1080p 144fps at medium settings c: )

No that's not how music licensing in games work. As long as the MUSIC as already BEEN in the game PAID and BOUGHT by a CONSUMER the consumer has all the right to MANTAIN the game VERSION they OWN without MODIFICATIONS.
The only way to lose the songs in the game is by the devs that do not exist anymore to update the game by removing it to be able to sell copies.
The game version that everyone when the game would not be able to be sold anymore will continue to work. that's how most licensed content in games work, Look at DBD when netflix removed the License for Stranger things everyone who already bought the DLC/characters in games still had them never removed.

[lukaself]

Music licensing issues? Publisher switches Denuvo server off - BOOM - no one can play the game anymore=problem solved. Like this, they can sell you a remaster with the songs removed ten years down the line from a third party mobile porting studio who doesn't care about this game.

[Darth]

It's a shame the final update today didn't remove Denuvo