*SPOILERS DO NOT READ* Chekov's Gun moment

[Quietus]

At which point during the playthough did you realize the "real" story.

For me it was while maxing out Heine's bond, and I saw that fking flag... My brain instantly realized the stellar plot point that was developing. Coupled with Omens calling Abels, I knew enough of the bible to know about Cain and Abel and Abels "stealing" the birthright from Cain.

Then when travelling to lost gaia, immediately understood which direction the arrow of time was moving in...

Then the item descriptions like OMG... IT ALL FKING MADE SENSE.
Man it almost felt like FromSoft moment, where you figured ♥♥♥♥ out on your own.

[dr46onfusion]

God Eater and Code Vein has stuff like that.

[McGeorgeOfTheJungle]

The game made you think different scenarios that was good.

Pushing the time travel aspect of Aria a lot
Then you see the Flag and you think... we must be on Earth and Aria didn't go back in time at all, and somehow global warming flooded most of the planet with the ice caps in Antarctica melted completely etc.
Then you realise it isn't Earth but a bleed effect of earth elements appearing.

It did the story well, keeping it fresh until the end. Shame most people won't experience it because they rage refunded the game for some minor silly things.

[Quietus]

Ikr. fking sad that they cant tell more because the entire game is meant to be a slow burn. And that ending... I fking cried while fighting the final boss and her monologue. Cause I also know how close we are to fulfilling the harvestella scenario that its like just a quiet acceptance that we will be Cains. And honestly that fills me with such sadness, and when regaia talks about us as the player, it hurts even more. Cause we can change the world in game, but it feels like the nations really dont fking care IRL.

Sry for getting political, i just needed to get it off my chest...

[dr46onfusion]

Originally posted by BitterSweetMelancholy:

Ikr. fking sad that they cant tell more because the entire game is meant to be a slow burn. And that ending... I fking cried while fighting the final boss and her monologue. Cause I also know how close we are to fulfilling the harvestella scenario that its like just a quiet acceptance that we will be Cains. And honestly that fills me with such sadness, and when regaia talks about us as the player, it hurts even more. Cause we can change the world in game, but it feels like the nations really dont fking care IRL.

Sry for getting political, i just needed to get it off my chest...

Humans are like that, so long as we stop evolving and keep going down the path of destruction, it may be beneficial to become 'replaced' by another sub-species altogether.

[Tuskai]

I genuinely believe Harvestella does this kind of story better than any other game I've played, and I've played a lot. Presenting players with believable lies, just to smash the mirror behind them and reveal the truth, while handing out just enough hints in advance that it doesn't feel like an asspull takes a serious amount of skill in story writing, a lot of games either are like "No duh of course that's a lie." or "That Truth doesn't make sense.", but Harvestella really does do both sides perfectly. And even games that do this kind of story well usually only do it once, Harvestalla does it so, so many times, even up to the bonus boss at the end, and it always lands.

[Quietus]

Suspension of disbelief does occur for key moments... like the 2000 years Aria, which didnt specify telomere loss etc... But for the purpose of the narrative was totally ok with it. Currently clearing karenoid so likely I'm thinking its gonna be explained (maybe).

The only loose threat I'm thinking of now is if we were in time to save the Cains. Chapter 7 implied we were running out of time, but was never covered in the post-game epilogue. I'm guessing its just re-integration with the planet, which is a whole other issue that feels like it needs a DLC.

Also im still pretty clueless about the Healix research panel talking about cloning, cause it still hasn't come into the story yet I think. Not to mention it also talks about the dilution of the soul/sense of self, but its not touched on later. Its either there to I guess infer we were doing unethical experiments to preserve humanity, or that was just a byproduct of the kind of ♥♥♥♥ we were doing prior to the world ending.

[Yuuki]

one thing i am wondering about is why the mc seems to be not affected by the quietus(?) or barely so. Sure the body is artificial so to say but it still a real human body so why isnt the mc affected.

[Adlez Navi]

Originally posted by McGeorgeOfTheJungle:

The game made you think different scenarios that was good.

Pushing the time travel aspect of Aria a lot
Then you see the Flag and you think... we must be on Earth and Aria didn't go back in time at all, and somehow global warming flooded most of the planet with the ice caps in Antarctica melted completely etc.
Then you realise it isn't Earth but a bleed effect of earth elements appearing.

It did the story well, keeping it fresh until the end. Shame most people won't experience it because they rage refunded the game for some minor silly things.

See I saw the flag and immediately knew "OH ♥♥♥♥ this is the moon!" because the flag has a top bar needed to keep it 'waving' with no wind

[Quietus]

Quietus feels weird because it withers crops but trees still survive. So its not like it only attacks sentient life, but it doesn't seem as indiscriminate as its implied.
The body we inhabit is probably sustained by regaia cause its mentioned we are both, but we can't have 2 physical bodies. So I guess maybe the MC has a makeup that is immune to quietus by virtue of being spawned directly by regaia.

And I also got fking confuzed at the regaia explanation. At first thought it was terraforming the moon. (Since also had Go Shiina so I assumed maybe an implicit connection to God Eater's devouring apocalypse - even though it was from 2 different franchises from different companies. PTSD from Bandai-Namco's expanded GE universe.). But when Geist started explaining the seaslight, it basically went down the "sentient nanomachines son" explanation as to why there is that bleed element. Or its just "magic"...

The other part I'm still confuzed about, is the stellar nursery. Gaia's apparatus core was born from the experiments of lost gaia. The monolite global net, humanoid processor and infinite energy source combo made sense post-planetary inception. But the translation makes it seem like they are making planets from scratch... So I have no idea if regaia as a planet was made from scratch using the gaia apparatus core, or is just there because of the bleed effect.

The Karenoid dungeon also introduces a 3rd astrum cell girl. I think its the one original to the planet we are on. Which basically makes it even more confuzing because that meant that regaia ISN'T the original core. So it feels like the game is saying that all planets have an astrum cell girl/humanoid processor, but shouldn't those only manifest after Omens seed the planet with seaslight?

[Cheshire Kat]

Originally posted by Tonyajc2:

See I saw the flag and immediately knew "OH ♥♥♥♥ this is the moon!" because the flag has a top bar needed to keep it 'waving' with no wind

Not only that but in the dialogue he says "It all begins with one step, and enough steps will one day lead to one giant leap"