Defense efficiency, also the cape

[Osaime]

So how exactly does the defense efficiency work ?
Is there a different base depending on the stuff ?

With the +3 shield I get around 75% And it jumps to 78% mid run and with the 7 amor shield it goes to 81%
How exactly does it work? Does the value given by the training decrease with time or is it possible (even if not needed ) to reach 100%
And what about parry can we reach 100% or will the bonus decrease as it goes up ?

Regarding the cape, does it have a point later in the game if I got the right information it can go up to +5 armor and eventually I may not have the gold required to afford the +7 shield so I guess it s better than the +3 shield. But is that all. Is it really weaker than the +3 shield until it reaches +3 or +4 and annoying (loss of xp and potentially gold unless you don't stack 20 rodent skin).

So far I have up to 30 rodent skin, is there a point where it will get to 40 wich would make the cape 2 times stronger and able to reach 10 armor ?
As I said I understand that it could be the best alternative sometimes and that would be ok as far as design goes.
But the item is annoying for a while since it makes you unable to farm rats for exp in 1 go and is weaker than the other item yoou can easily get (mine is still at +2 and I don't go to the drunk guards atm) and the other "scaling" options you have are generally pretty good if not the best you can get since they require a long term investment for a "broken" payout.
So can it get to +10 at some point or will it stay this "underwhelming and kinda annoying but sometimes an option " thing it appear to be ?

[Mister Veeg]

Rat cape fills the niche between the +3 shield and having the town shortcut unlocked/ground down enough to make the +7 feasible.

as far as I know there's only 30 rats available

[Osaime]

:( thanks

[ptor]

Originally posted by Osaime:

With the +3 shield I get around 75% And it jumps to 78% mid run and with the 7 amor shield it goes to 81%
How exactly does it work? Does the value given by the training decrease with time or is it possible (even if not needed ) to reach 100%
And what about parry can we reach 100% or will the bonus decrease as it goes up ?

From what I understood it should be about 0.9 tops, and it decreases the longer the fight drags on. It can be trained on the island and I think that's it?

Originally posted by Osaime:

So can it get to +10 at some point or will it stay this "underwhelming and kinda annoying but sometimes an option " thing it appear to be ?

+5 is the limit, and I can recommend plenty of drunken talking (shouldn't take long with speed and a tight loop). By then XP shouldn't be as bit a problem as you think. You can always farm sacrificing if you need more :)

[shde2e]

Defense efficiency is just your base starting amount + skill bonus + body bonus.

The skill seems to give ~3% per level and can be trained by the samurai. Body seems to give ~2% per level.

The efficiency number doesn't seem to go down, but once you run out of defense it obviously becomes useless.

[Xaneorath]

I think its kind of weird though how the cape is replaced by the shield. I mean ... why wouldn't hero-guy continue to wear his rat cape when finding a wood (or better) shield?
I know, its probably a game design decision to just have 1 slot for an defensive item, so the defence wouldn't scale up too fast... but still, it feels very off.

Perhaps they shouldn't have added a rat cape, but rather a "tanned rat skin shield" or something...

[shde2e]

Probably a minor coding oversight, since the rat cape starts out worse than the shield. The mana sword has the same thing.

Fortunately there is an easy solution in just not picking up the shield.

[Xaneorath]

Well, yes, I am aware of that. I just say its counterintuitive that you have to drop a cape to pick up a shield, while you could aswell just wear both. ;)