any tips to make corps not so boring and slow?

[KheL]

I mean, I've been playing it for days and still can't do much.. feels like I'm missing something.
all upgrades and unlocks are so expensive, selling shares won't give me much..
my software and agricultural expansions are lucrative (but 130k profit is deadly slow), I distributed operations/engineers/etc.. I'm watching out the quality, but my stock price can't go more than $15.000..
more over, I bought the unlock for the market prices and nothing happened, is it bugged?

[Procat]

It took me about 5 days to get through it the first time, it'll start snowball.
What industries do you have?

[KheL]

Originally posted by Procat:

It took me about 5 days to get through it the first time, it'll start snowball.
What industries do you have?

software and agricultural

[MrBall]

So I've successfully finished a node with Corps in ~3 days a couple times now my strat is as follows

Software (all 6 cities) all branches 6 employees 1 in everything selling Max/MP (buy a Tobacco industry but dont' invest just put some employees in R&D and let Dreamsense roll) get Smart supply and a dreamsense or 2.
Develop 3 "products" selling Max/MP
Should be making almost 1M a second. Build up some warehouse space
Stockpile 1 product until warehouses full. then enable sales and during the market cycle you sold all those products do ONE "find investors" that will get you ~.5 Trillion

With this money get level 20 or 30 in all the employee stat boosts.
Make a few cheap products on tobacco and expand tobacco to all 6 cities.
With extra money buff up Software a bit with some Hardware/Ai Cores/Robots/ Real estate to get producution up to ~10x.

The big turning point is getting Market TA 2. Market TA 1 is irrelevant but TA 2 is INSANE.
Once you have TA 2 start making products with billions into design and marketing to get high rated products. Tobacco seems to have significant scaling off advertising and quality so you can very seriously start skyrocketing to 1T a second.

Whenever it feels right after you do the one find investors pull go public and sell about half of your 900m Shares to help push tobacco into crazy production.
At some point go 100 dividands to TANK your share price and buy back all 450m shares and then just use your corp and personal funds to buy everything you need to complete the node

[Russ]

I built up agriculture and software with six employees in each city, and didn't end up needing to do much more with it. Sell all your shares after each augment to afford moderate-sized ($1B) hacking servers, and use those to earn the real money. Buy back the shares before the next augment.

I haven't tried the no-corporation challenge yet, but I plan to.

[KheL]

Originally posted by Mr. Ball:

So I've successfully finished a node with Corps in ~3 days a couple times now my strat is as follows

Software (all 6 cities) all branches 6 employees 1 in everything selling Max/MP (buy a Tobacco industry but dont' invest just put some employees in R&D and let Dreamsense roll) get Smart supply and a dreamsense or 2.
Develop 3 "products" selling Max/MP
Should be making almost 1M a second. Build up some warehouse space
Stockpile 1 product until warehouses full. then enable sales and during the market cycle you sold all those products do ONE "find investors" that will get you ~.5 Trillion

With this money get level 20 or 30 in all the employee stat boosts.
Make a few cheap products on tobacco and expand tobacco to all 6 cities.
With extra money buff up Software a bit with some Hardware/Ai Cores/Robots/ Real estate to get producution up to ~10x.

The big turning point is getting Market TA 2. Market TA 1 is irrelevant but TA 2 is INSANE.
Once you have TA 2 start making products with billions into design and marketing to get high rated products. Tobacco seems to have significant scaling off advertising and quality so you can very seriously start skyrocketing to 1T a second.

Whenever it feels right after you do the one find investors pull go public and sell about half of your 900m Shares to help push tobacco into crazy production.
At some point go 100 dividands to TANK your share price and buy back all 450m shares and then just use your corp and personal funds to buy everything you need to complete the node

Nice strat.. thanks for sharing..
Probably my mistake was thinking that hiring people would be useful in a company.. xD

[tclord]

Na, the more employees you hire, the more they socialize and get less done, dropping your overall productivity. One employee would be best, as they can't talk to anyone and work with 100% efficiency. :)

[Shogal]

For Agriculture, invest to Real Estates, they can up your production multiplier to hundreds without wasting too much warehouse space. Expanding to all six cities is a good idea from the start because production multiplier counts for all cities in the same industry branch.
Distributing Real Estates evenly between cities has much better multiplier than putting all Real Estates in the single city.

[MrBall]

Yeah I've heard Agriculture can get busted production multipliers which i haven't tried. Might be better than Software (extra 15B initial cost hurts). Software doesn't get nearly as high a multiplier can hardly break 20x.

Tobacco at 1T cost advertising (so quite a bit of investment) can get 20kX increases but requires TA2 to easily benefit from which is frustrating. Production is money even with TA2

[HalyconShade]

Originally posted by Mr. Ball:

Yeah I've heard Agriculture can get busted production multipliers which i haven't tried. Might be better than Software (extra 15B initial cost hurts). Software doesn't get nearly as high a multiplier can hardly break 20x.

Tobacco at 1T cost advertising (so quite a bit of investment) can get 20kX increases but requires TA2 to easily benefit from which is frustrating. Production is money even with TA2

I decided to try agri - short answer as it had no products it's pretty easy to get 120x multi from RE but that's about it; I believe sometime in the past RE didnt take Storage space...but now it does. I haven't got TA1 yet but I assume my resource quality will plummet when I do spend the points, which is another problem with no products.

It's quite easy to get 6m/s profits out of though, so not too awful for a starting industry I guess.

I played a bit with food but the Prod multis are awful from RE/AI/bots so I guess I'll move into tobacco today as you suggest - not finished day 1 yet.

EDIT: The prod multis for tobacco are worse! For the sake of research I will expand into food properly and see what a 1T/1T product brings in.

[duregard]

I mostly used it to scam the government out of that starting "loan" (selling shares to get a nice head start on RAM and augments) and later to transfer money between augments by buy-back.

[Shogal]

Originally posted by Halycon Shade:

I believe sometime in the past RE didnt take Storage space...but now it does.

They do, but very small comparing to the other materials. Here is the table:
Water: 0.05,
Energy: 0.01,
Food: 0.03,
Plants: 0.05,
Metal: 0.1,
Hardware: 0.06,
Chemicals: 0.05,
Drugs: 0.02,
Robots: 0.5,
AICores: 0.1,
RealEstate: 0.005,

[Resting Manatee]

My strat that worked out pretty well for me was to start farming--> transition into using the MAX/2 food generated via exports in the food industry when you can afford the expansion and export tech. Once that combo takes off a little I take the profits into real estate, and get this- EXPORT your real estate that you produce to your farming division that has the highest sale value. It's hilarious that you can move land across cities. I guess it's ownership?

Anyways my farm business is generating like 500m/sec selling Real estate generated by my real estate business for an idea of profit

I'll have bigger numbers soon, I've been mid-Bitnode for a while working on an automation script!

[MrBall]

the biggest thing take makes Corps easy is manipulating one simple thing... Investors and IPO take you current market tick profits as gospel.

This means if you get some warehouse space and max out with some products and sell them all in one tick you can artificially inflate your revenue if you do an investor pull or IPO on this tick you can get MASSIVE influx of cash. Between one investor pull and a later IPO of half the remaining shares you can easily get over 3T of free money which is plenty to get going. Honestly the only thing holding it back from being faster is me being utterly uninterested in trying to Micro prices prior to TA2

[HalyconShade]

Originally posted by Shogal:

Originally posted by Halycon Shade:

I believe sometime in the past RE didnt take Storage space...but now it does.

They do, but very small comparing to the other materials. Here is the table:
Water: 0.05,
Energy: 0.01,
Food: 0.03,
Plants: 0.05,
Metal: 0.1,
Hardware: 0.06,
Chemicals: 0.05,
Drugs: 0.02,
Robots: 0.5,
AICores: 0.1,
RealEstate: 0.005,

Oh thanks - that's good to know!