Mini Games I can't do them.

[Daveroski]

Not even the one at Joes Guns which is supposed to be trivial at my level.
They are just WAY too fast for me.

D.

[tclord]

Originally posted by Daveroski:

Originally posted by DeNarr:

Yeah, honestly even higher level servers aren't worth it. I did a level 25 server, and only got 16k rep.

Putting 16k rep into a new faction wouldn't be worth it?
You must be playing a different game to me.

D.

You are missing the point I think. How long does it take you to build up 300 in all stats? Considering how much time that takes (cost), is the tiny reward worth it? Or could you get much better returns on that time investing it elsewhere? By the time you can do a level 25 challenge the 16k rep is nothing, as you almost certainly already own all the augments from that faction already.

The problem with the minigames is you can do them over and over, so once you can do them, you can potentially do them over and over and gain a lot. For that reason, I'm sure, they made the rewards tiny on purpose, for balance reasons. Making it easier would make it necessary to further nerf the rewards.

I think maybe the best solution here is for you to just modify the game code on your own computer to made it much easier. That way you get what you want. I don't think the devs will change this because of balancing reasons, as I've pointed out. But it is open source so you can change what you want pretty easy. I'm not sure offhand how you'd do this but I'm guessing it is in the main.bundle.js file in resources/app.

[Daveroski]

Originally posted by tclord:

Originally posted by Daveroski:

Putting 16k rep into a new faction wouldn't be worth it?
You must be playing a different game to me.

D.

You are missing the point I think. How long does it take you to build up 300 in all stats? Considering how much time that takes (cost), is the tiny reward worth it?

After I have a few augments from the criminal factions I use the gym and it doesn't take long at all to get to 300.

D.

[Legato Bluesummers]

I read this:
https://bitburner.readthedocs.io/en/latest/basicgameplay/infiltration.html
and instantly knew I wasn't ever going to try it. 250ms is rough and I can type at 75 wpm consistently with good hand-eye coordination. I think this definitely needs to be reworked.

[Daveroski]

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

I read this:
https://bitburner.readthedocs.io/en/latest/basicgameplay/infiltration.html
and instantly knew I wasn't ever going to try it. 250ms is rough and I can type at 75 wpm consistently with good hand-eye coordination. I think this definitely needs to be reworked.

I'm a bit more hands-on. Had to give it a go.
I though perhaps I was blinking too slowly.

D.

[Russ]

Infiltration, jobs, hacknet, crime, gangs, corporations, singularity functions - maybe things change in later Bitnodes, but so far they're all useless if you've got a strong hack script.

[Dolly ✨🌈🔧]

A few source-files into the game, I would say all of the above are useful in their own way, with the notable exception of infiltration. Which is good, because infiltration is an accessibility nightmare.

I agree that it shouldn't be designed this way in the first place, but as it stands, at least nothing is uniquely locked behind infiltrations to the extent that I've seen so far.

[tclord]

I'm doing bitnode 6, the bladeburners, and hacking is really nerfed for this one. My hacking skill is 189, while my combat stats are 384 to 543. This is a bitnode where combat is more useful. So ya, hacking works well in the first bitnode but other bitnodes stress other ways of doing things. The first bitnode is the one that has a main focus on hacking.

[DeNarr]

Originally posted by Daveroski:

Originally posted by DeNarr:

Yeah, honestly even higher level servers aren't worth it. I did a level 25 server, and only got 16k rep.

Putting 16k rep into a new faction wouldn't be worth it?
You must be playing a different game to me.

D.

This wasn't a new faction. This was sitting at about ~1500 combat stats to hit a high level server. Was trying to show that it doesn't scale that well even at high levels. Low level servers were like 600 rep

[Daveroski]

it wouldn't be so hard for the dev to make it so that these mini games allowed anyone of any capability to build up to a high success rate simply by changing the time in accordance with the players success.failure rate over time. Making them adapt so that each player would be able to fir their EnterTainMent Bar.

D.

[cmdraftbrn]

im a slow typist. modified hunt and peck style. and that infiltration is a blur for me.

[󠀡󠀡]

Unless there are BNs that severely gimp reputation gains from all other sources, I don't see a reason to do infiltrations. They're just not worth it.

[orbatos]

Originally posted by tclord:

Originally posted by Daveroski:

I just think a speed slider for the mini games in the setting section would give everyone a chance.

Me specifically.

D.

Or everyone would simply abuse it and set it to the minimum they can. I'm tell you, though, it's not worth it. You build your stats up to 300 so you can beat it and you get like $12k and 125 rep, worth it? Just a waste of time, trust me.

You could just wait until your stats are 1000 or higher and try n00dles. Even you should be able to handle it at that point if you really gotta do it.

If you think abusing gameplay quirks isn't the point of this entire game you have missed the boat. The mini games as they are are simply irritating, and not even worth the reputation you could get when your stats are low, let alone at 1000. This is a game design flaw.

[Focs]

I had to look this up because i thought i was just bad at videogames now. it's so damn fast it just isn't fun to do the mini games, i understand punishing you for making a mistake but when you have 4.5 seconds to find the 9 in a sea of 6's it just isn't even as much a challenge as it is laughing at you for trying a shortcut.

[Zac Starfire]

My 4th guide has an auto-infiltrator script if you want to use that...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2874771586

[Vestle]

I tried about 20 times, finally i got it once... I only have difficulty at 8... And its still hard af...