Is there a roadmap?

[SamsTheMan]

Been thinking about making the purchase but I want to see what the plans are and what is yet to come first.

Thanks for the help

[Yria]

just read the forum its all there

[SamsTheMan]

yeah I don't think thats true there are many road maps posted even on steam store pages

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

yeah I don't think thats true there are many road maps posted even on steam store pages

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

"2. Do not make specific promises about future events. For example, there is no way you can know exactly when the game will be finished, that the game will be finished, or that planned future additions will definitely happen. Do not ask your customers to bet on the future of your game. Customers should be buying your game based on its current state, not on promises of a future that may or may not be realized."

Most likely steam got sick of have to deal with the fall out of "empty promises". Throw together some fast cash grab, give a vivid roadmap to throw blur into your eyes, then run off with the cash and not deliver.

When I buy into an early access game I do so based on its current state, not what it might or might not be in the future.

[SamsTheMan]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

yeah I don't think thats true there are many road maps posted even on steam store pages

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

"2. Do not make specific promises about future events. For example, there is no way you can know exactly when the game will be finished, that the game will be finished, or that planned future additions will definitely happen. Do not ask your customers to bet on the future of your game. Customers should be buying your game based on its current state, not on promises of a future that may or may not be realized."

Most likely steam got sick of have to deal with the fall out of "empty promises". Throw together some fast cash grab, give a vivid roadmap to throw blur into your eyes, then run off with the cash and not deliver.

When I buy into an early access game I do so based on its current state, not what it might or might not be in the future.

That does not preclude roadmaps. Roadmaps are not promises or a guarantee; they are what the developers are intending to do

Buying an early access game based on its current state completely defeats the purpose of early access. It exists to give the developers feedback to help improve the game before full release

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

"2. Do not make specific promises about future events. For example, there is no way you can know exactly when the game will be finished, that the game will be finished, or that planned future additions will definitely happen. Do not ask your customers to bet on the future of your game. Customers should be buying your game based on its current state, not on promises of a future that may or may not be realized."

Most likely steam got sick of have to deal with the fall out of "empty promises". Throw together some fast cash grab, give a vivid roadmap to throw blur into your eyes, then run off with the cash and not deliver.

When I buy into an early access game I do so based on its current state, not what it might or might not be in the future.

That does not preclude roadmaps. Roadmaps are not promises or a guarantee; they are what the developers are intending to do

Buying an early access game based on its current state completely defeats the purpose of early access. It exists to give the developers feedback to help improve the game before full release

Contact the steam helpdesk and bring it up with them then. Let us know how that went afterwards.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by cosmoplayer:

@Ruffo:
nightingale (EA) it post detailed roadmap before the updates
donkey crew have a website: there they can do whatever they like: there aren't any single words of news about their games; funny there is job application (i would not like to work for that company)
in any case the post is specific: if you can't give an answer why you are spent your time to every single post to defend this team that lack in transparence and comunication: are you payed?

ah yes, the usual "you don't agree with me so you are paid" argument that is all over the steam forums in similar threads.

If you want to interact with the devs, go to their discord, they reply to things and interact with users all the time.

I reposted the same response in this thread as they gave on their discord. If you disagree with it, take it up with steam. Come back and let us know how that went. If you want to argue just the the sake of arguing, that doesn't get you anywhere.

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by cosmoplayer:

@Ruffio
why you don't argue the matter they do not give information anywhere over the net?
if you have a link to reach for news about the game, please post it. tank you

This is from Discord from 2 days ago:

"When is it likely the public will be notified what is actually being addressed in the next update? What information does your marketing team feel is appropriate to improve sales at this point?"

Dev response:

"I can answer specific questions if you have anything.
Can't give timelines, still too much uncertainty.
I think your focus on sales is misplaced."

Also from Misper yesterday: "Fortunately, we already have a test branch and we'll make sure to update it when we're ready for you to preview the changes."

So those of you who are not in the test branch will be waiting even longer once it gets released to that as well. Something to think about. Usually it spends a good 2-4 weeks in test.

So just relax.. go play something else and come back in a few weeks and see what's going on. Or keep spamming the forums everyday like that is going to do something.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by cosmoplayer:

so there is no link to see the status of the progress: only empity words. lol

Only empty words here is yours dude..

[Tanyon]

OK well regardless of what you think. This company chooses not to have one because they don;t want to be responsible for saying something might be coming and then it not come and people getting upset about it. I think that is reasonable. No game OWES you a road-map and they stated that they aren't going to make one and their reason why and that's it. You can either accept that.. or once again make 100 more posts/comments about it.

[SamsTheMan]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

That does not preclude roadmaps. Roadmaps are not promises or a guarantee; they are what the developers are intending to do

Buying an early access game based on its current state completely defeats the purpose of early access. It exists to give the developers feedback to help improve the game before full release

Contact the steam helpdesk and bring it up with them then. Let us know how that went afterwards.

no ill just look at the hundreds of games that have roadmaps included on the store page

[SamsTheMan]

Originally posted by Tanyon:

OK well regardless of what you think. This company chooses not to have one because they don;t want to be responsible for saying something might be coming and then it not come and people getting upset about it. I think that is reasonable. No game OWES you a road-map and they stated that they aren't going to make one and their reason why and that's it. You can either accept that.. or once again make 100 more posts/comments about it.

every roadmap says the planned features are not a guarantee and are subject to change

they could do this but choose not to, and we can choose to criticize them for not doing what has largely become the industry standard for serious EA games

they don't OWE anyone anything, they don't even OWE finishing the game at all. they could stop development immediately and as far as what they OWE, would you make the same argument that you are not OWED?

[Neon Ninja]

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

Originally posted by Tanyon:

OK well regardless of what you think. This company chooses not to have one because they don;t want to be responsible for saying something might be coming and then it not come and people getting upset about it. I think that is reasonable. No game OWES you a road-map and they stated that they aren't going to make one and their reason why and that's it. You can either accept that.. or once again make 100 more posts/comments about it.

every roadmap says the planned features are not a guarantee and are subject to change

they could do this but choose not to, and we can choose to criticize them for not doing what has largely become the industry standard for serious EA games

they don't OWE anyone anything, they don't even OWE finishing the game at all. they could stop development immediately and as far as what they OWE, would you make the same argument that you are not OWED?

The abandoned their previous game and then start early access on this game overdoing it with a literal update everyday for the first 15 days or so maybe more...Now after so many people have spent good money on the game and they are not worrying so much about money, they are communicating much less now. Funny how that works.

I love these devs, but if they want to make a video game that is one of the very best ever made, they should probably improve their communications on Steam. That will likely lead to more money than they ever imagined as well. This is a good game that is on the cusp of being absolutely incredible.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by SilentWraith:

Originally posted by SamsTheMan:

every roadmap says the planned features are not a guarantee and are subject to change

they could do this but choose not to, and we can choose to criticize them for not doing what has largely become the industry standard for serious EA games

they don't OWE anyone anything, they don't even OWE finishing the game at all. they could stop development immediately and as far as what they OWE, would you make the same argument that you are not OWED?

The abandoned their previous game and then start early access on this game overdoing it with a literal update everyday for the first 15 days or so maybe more...Now after so many people have spent good money on the game and they are not worrying so much about money, they are communicating much less now. Funny how that works.

I love these devs, but if they want to make a video game that is one of the very best ever made, they should probably improve their communications on Steam. That will likely lead to more money then they ever imagined as well. This is a good game that is on the heals of absolutely incredible.

If you want to engage with them go to their discord as they asked people to do if they want too. Steam forums is a toxic wasteland. I rather want them to keep focus on work on the game than go to the steam forums and respond to every snowflake posting "where is the roadmap"...

[Neon Ninja]

And those that are saying Steam won't allow roadmaps on Steam. Well, they either aren't enforcing their rule, it is a brand new rule, there are many early access games that are the ones out there doing things with a great dev/community relationship, that do make roadmaps. And then they often update their roadmaps as things change. People understand this is only a plan and not everything makes it until the finished product. I know of several ea projects on steam that have an active or revised roadmap on Steam currently.

[SamsTheMan]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by SilentWraith:

The abandoned their previous game and then start early access on this game overdoing it with a literal update everyday for the first 15 days or so maybe more...Now after so many people have spent good money on the game and they are not worrying so much about money, they are communicating much less now. Funny how that works.

I love these devs, but if they want to make a video game that is one of the very best ever made, they should probably improve their communications on Steam. That will likely lead to more money then they ever imagined as well. This is a good game that is on the heals of absolutely incredible.

If you want to engage with them go to their discord as they asked people to do if they want too. Steam forums is a toxic wasteland. I rather want them to keep focus on work on the game than go to the steam forums and respond to every snowflake posting "where is the roadmap"...

super easy solution:

Post a roadmap