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Dapitbull Jul 7, 2024 @ 5:49pm
Tier 3 food cooking just isn't working correclty imo
Seems hard to keep food cooked even though we have massive amounts of ingredients within arms reach of our inns. We have currently 4x Tier 3 inns and unless we stay on the cooking we can never stock up. Some steps we have done to try and get food stocked up. 1.1 inn only makes spices, this is topped off at 500, we are lucky to keep it above 100 and have to go help often. 2. Two Inns have the 40% productivity food, think name is spicy meat stew, and 1 inn making a 30% combat stat food. Close by to every inn we have a barn and a well, in barn we have all meats required, all veggies required, the spices and wood required. We also have 3x tier 3 forge cabins to dried mushrooms and we have to do these ourselves mostly We are lucky to have them cook 6-10 stews out of the inns a day. When you are trying to feed 60+ people and them not really cooking and always wasting time it is starching to get frustrating. We also have have 1 dedicated cook for every cooking station we have and a few capable of cooking if need be.
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Gavener Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:18pm 
Was wondering how T2+ was, I am staying up at night cooking Fine Stew from deer legs getting x4 a cook, and I do this every night till I was 10/10 cooking It seems tot he only way to keep everyone happy, I got 2 farms, that put out massive wield, was hoping T2/3 had a even bigger cooking or better stove etc, right now I got 4 cooking pots and 1 smoker going for like 16 people 40+ that would take so mush work
tamu1997 Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:42pm 
how are your orders done? You mention spices topped at 100 but is that 1 order to top at 500 or are you stacking the orders? example 1 order to top at 20, 2nd order to top at 50, 3rd order at 70 etc? This is how you need to have all larger orders done or they will loop. I have 1 inn and 4 cauldrons. 2 dedicated cooks. My food orders stay at topped off levels feeding 65 villagers
Dapitbull Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by tamu1997:
how are your orders done? You mention spices topped at 100 but is that 1 order to top at 500 or are you stacking the orders? example 1 order to top at 20, 2nd order to top at 50, 3rd order at 70 etc? This is how you need to have all larger orders done or they will loop. I have 1 inn and 4 cauldrons. 2 dedicated cooks. My food orders stay at topped off levels feeding 65 villagers
We have tried several different ways. Currently we have 1 inn dedicated to spices. Our barn that holds spices which is right beside that in can hold up 600 spices. Each cauldron is set to 500 top off. They keep the 100 wood and the garlic and sage in that barn but when checking production daily on the cauldrons most times they might make 10 spices and some days none, Well at first we thought maybe cause they moved them. Well we realized we were completely out. This is the only thing we are unable to get them to keep stacked along with food.
tamu1997 Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Dapitbull:
Each cauldron is set to 500 top off.
This is your problem. Its too much for a single order
Dapitbull Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Gavener:
Was wondering how T2+ was, I am staying up at night cooking Fine Stew from deer legs getting x4 a cook, and I do this every night till I was 10/10 cooking It seems tot he only way to keep everyone happy, I got 2 farms, that put out massive wield, was hoping T2/3 had a even bigger cooking or better stove etc, right now I got 4 cooking pots and 1 smoker going for like 16 people 40+ that would take so mush work
Yeah we can easily get the food stocked up if we used tier 1 and tier 2 foods but why would I want to use those and we really shouldn't have too. Tier 3 cooking right now is so bad I have 2 hunters that I have to actually sell meat cause we have too much. How can 2 hunters full keep 6 cauldrons running unless they don't cook which often is the case. We check their production daily and very often nothing was cooked. For every cauldron we made sure we had 1 dedicated cook. Our lowest cook is cooking 8. I think in total we have 15 villager able to cook.
Dapitbull Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by tamu1997:
Originally posted by Dapitbull:
Each cauldron is set to 500 top off.
This is your problem. Its too much for a single order
We tried 30, 50, 100, 200, and 500 numbers. Everything else we have zero issue keeping topped off. If we use tier 1 cauldrons and do fine stew they will quickly cook 500. So no that is not the issue. You say the numbers are to high for top off. Well if they are completely out of that food, how can they go all day with out cooking a single feast even when dedicated to only cook and ingredients are staged right beside inns. It is only noticed with tier 3 foods. If we use tier 1 food we have ZERO issues keeping 500.
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Dapitbull Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by tamu1997:
how are your orders done? You mention spices topped at 100 but is that 1 order to top at 500 or are you stacking the orders? example 1 order to top at 20, 2nd order to top at 50, 3rd order at 70 etc? This is how you need to have all larger orders done or they will loop. I have 1 inn and 4 cauldrons. 2 dedicated cooks. My food orders stay at topped off levels feeding 65 villagers
Are you using tier 1 or tier 2 foods cause we are not. We know we can easily change it but we are also testing. I am pointing out if you try to use nothing but tier 3 foods then if is hard to keep stocked up.
tamu1997 Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Dapitbull:
Originally posted by tamu1997:
how are your orders done? You mention spices topped at 100 but is that 1 order to top at 500 or are you stacking the orders? example 1 order to top at 20, 2nd order to top at 50, 3rd order at 70 etc? This is how you need to have all larger orders done or they will loop. I have 1 inn and 4 cauldrons. 2 dedicated cooks. My food orders stay at topped off levels feeding 65 villagers
Are you using tier 1 or tier 2 foods cause we are not. We know we can easily change it but we are also testing. I am pointing out if you try to use nothing but tier 3 foods then if is hard to keep stocked up.
tier3 foods all topped to 75 and it maintains for 65 people. Tier 2 foods I also keep toppped at 65 for backups. I never do any direct cooking, its all automated. You dont need 500 spices topped up as a single order. thats killing your inns output loop
edit: the tier2 backups typipcally just rot or I move them to other outposts or a "raid storage" I have if I want to farm bandits. I also didnt list that I have 2 bakeries doing the meat pies, honeycakes, and bread but those last two are mainly delivered to outposts
Last edited by tamu1997; Jul 8, 2024 @ 3:59pm
Dapitbull Jul 8, 2024 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by tamu1997:
Originally posted by Dapitbull:
Are you using tier 1 or tier 2 foods cause we are not. We know we can easily change it but we are also testing. I am pointing out if you try to use nothing but tier 3 foods then if is hard to keep stocked up.
tier3 foods all topped to 75 and it maintains for 65 people. Tier 2 foods I also keep toppped at 65 for backups. I never do any direct cooking, its all automated. You dont need 500 spices topped up as a single order. thats killing your inns output loop
edit: the tier2 backups typipcally just rot or I move them to other outposts or a "raid storage" I have if I want to farm bandits. I also didnt list that I have 2 bakeries doing the meat pies, honeycakes, and bread but those last two are mainly delivered to outposts
How so, the inn making spices is not the issue, we barley run out of spices? Can you post screen shots of each of your inns and your storage settings? Btw the inn making spices only has spice queued. 2 inns are queued to only cook spiced meat stew, the 40% productivity food. Also as I said we are etsting we do not cook tier 2 or tier 1 foods. We realize we could incorporate those foods which would allow us to have more tier 3 food always ready. Not sure if you game is like mine but when they wake in the morning they take 3 foods, usually 2 times a day. At 60 people 300+ foods ate a day. We have it set for dried mushrooms and our best to keep the productivity food up and only allow them access to 2 food, we do decent on the mushrooms staying between 30 and 50. The spicy meat stew however, as I said we have 4 inns dedicated to those. The output of the cauldron run roughly I would say 2-3 stews a day.
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tamu1997 Jul 8, 2024 @ 9:01pm 
How so, the inn making spices is not the issue, we barley run out of spices?
- you said above this is one of your issues -
this is topped off at 500, we are lucky to keep it above 100 and have to go help often
once again if you dont need nor are you getting 500 then you are wasting production time. but worse you are keeping probably 2-3 of your cooks looped out of OTHER stations they could be cooking at.

3 foods a day especially tier3 is enough. no way they should be grabbing twice, unless you are grabbing people with gluttony, but even then that would be a LOT of people with it. You say you're only doing tier3 then mentioned you're feeding them dried mushrooms? I'm not following your actual setup here.

The output of the cauldron run roughly I would say 2-3 stews a day.
thats only one cook. you are doing something wrong or there's a problem with your game

you should go to their discord and post on their bugs or feedback channel. they'll ask you for a save file and let you know if there's a problem or if you have a bad setup
Landy Jul 8, 2024 @ 10:32pm 
1、 The AI of villagers still needs to be optimized. Not only cooking, but also smelting mineral veins is not satisfactory. I separated the kitchen separately, but the effect was still average.

2、 Improve the equipment of your warriors, as they can eat ordinary food and have strong combat power.
Dapitbull Jul 9, 2024 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by tamu1997:
How so, the inn making spices is not the issue, we barley run out of spices?
- you said above this is one of your issues -
this is topped off at 500, we are lucky to keep it above 100 and have to go help often
once again if you dont need nor are you getting 500 then you are wasting production time. but worse you are keeping probably 2-3 of your cooks looped out of OTHER stations they could be cooking at.

3 foods a day especially tier3 is enough. no way they should be grabbing twice, unless you are grabbing people with gluttony, but even then that would be a LOT of people with it. You say you're only doing tier3 then mentioned you're feeding them dried mushrooms? I'm not following your actual setup here.

The output of the cauldron run roughly I would say 2-3 stews a day.
thats only one cook. you are doing something wrong or there's a problem with your game

you should go to their discord and post on their bugs or feedback channel. they'll ask you for a save file and let you know if there's a problem or if you have a bad setup
Could be game, as I said we are testing, we have a dedicated cook for every Inn and then an additional cook with only delivery turned on, so 8 cooks total and 4 with delivery turned on. We follow them, they waste tons of time just walking around. Will grab 1 wood and throw on cauldron. Then slowly walk back and grab 1 meat, then walk back and grab 1 veggie. Teh sometimes they will grab a lot. Btw all cooks have cooking 8 or 9.
Dapitbull Jul 9, 2024 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Landy:
1、 The AI of villagers still needs to be optimized. Not only cooking, but also smelting mineral veins is not satisfactory. I separated the kitchen separately, but the effect was still average.

2、 Improve the equipment of your warriors, as they can eat ordinary food and have strong combat power.
We are only testing, if we want we can easily fix the food situation by using a various amount of ways. What good does it do if I didn't post my findings they the AI as you said needs some work with cooking. Or maybe tier 3 inn should have 4 cooking spots vs 2. Ok maybe change the cooking to like the crafting where you can load the mats in the storage and they cook like crafting
tamu1997 Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Could be game, as I said we are testing, we have a dedicated cook for every Inn and then an additional cook with only delivery turned on, so 8 cooks total and 4 with delivery turned on. We follow them, they waste tons of time just walking around. Will grab 1 wood and throw on cauldron. Then slowly walk back and grab 1 meat, then walk back and grab 1 veggie. Teh sometimes they will grab a lot. Btw all cooks have cooking 8 or 9.
Thats probably too many cooks for the list of stations you gave. Probably 3 maybe 4 more than you need. They are basically tripping over themselves for the number of cooking tasks.

How tight is the area? ie how far do they have to walk to deliver cooked food to storage and/or get next set of ingredients?

sounds like not enough delivery. You should be able to tell on delivery by how fast the stations get cleared of cooked food. This is a delivery task.
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Date Posted: Jul 7, 2024 @ 5:49pm
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