Needs PvP

[Mr. Nobody]

Played the demo and the game seems pretty interesting but this seems like a game that would thrive from PvP. Adding the option later on would be cool.

[Tarkis]

It needs more then that, I played 30 minutes today then uninstalled it.

[Silverlance]

Honestly, majority of "pvp" survival games wont be successful, especially not if they are mixed with PvE.

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por Johnny Rico:

Honestly, majority of "pvp" survival games wont be successful, especially not if they are mixed with PvE.

Tell that to Conan exiles and myth of empires.

[YhormTheHuman]

The Devs have stated their focusing on single player only, because they have absolutely no idea how to implement PVP with PVE at all. They absolutely shat the bed when they tried with Last Oasis, which is currently sitting abandoned in its fourth year of early access.

[CosaNostra]

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Originalmente postado por Johnny Rico:

Honestly, majority of "pvp" survival games wont be successful, especially not if they are mixed with PvE.

Tell that to Conan exiles and myth of empires.

so 2 of thousands

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por CosaNostra:

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Tell that to Conan exiles and myth of empires.

so 2 of thousands

there aren't thousands of survival games like this lol that's a huge exaggeration, and the ones that are around have rarely seen success. Most fail. In fact if you really look into it the only ones that keep a consistent player base for years have PVP.

[Karumati]

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Played the demo and the game seems pretty interesting but this seems like a game that would thrive from PvP. Adding the option later on would be cool.

not every game needs pvp

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por Karumati:

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Played the demo and the game seems pretty interesting but this seems like a game that would thrive from PvP. Adding the option later on would be cool.

not every game needs pvp

No but survival games Iike this thrive from it, and most of the time it’s optional so personally I find the constant anti pvp crap to be pretty cringey. You won’t have to play pvp so why do you care about the ones that do? Just seems odd to actively want to dictate how people should play. Not necessarily you just in general. All the “anti PVP” people need to get over themselves. You have your game mode so let us have ours.

[Silverlance]

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Originalmente postado por Karumati:

not every game needs pvp

No but survival games Iike this thrive from it, and most of the time it’s optional so personally I find the constant anti pvp crap to be pretty cringey. You won’t have to play pvp so why do you care about the ones that do? Just seems odd to actively want to dictate how people should play. Not necessarily you just in general. All the “anti PVP” people need to get over themselves. You have your game mode so let us have ours.

There are many different kinds of survival games, but no, this is not the type of survival game that would thrive on PvP.
This is a more slow paced survival game where its more about building up economy, buildings, community. This game is more like Medieval Dynasty.
Putting PvP into this game would have been horrible.
Difficult part about having both PvE and PvP in games like this is that it is very difficult to actually balance them well to be actually good at both since you either end up with a game that is ok, at best, at both, or pretty good in PvP but pretty bad in PvE.
There are very few, if any at all, that is really good at both PvE and PvP in the same game without one of them suffering.

[Karumati]

Originalmente postado por Jake:

Originalmente postado por Karumati:

not every game needs pvp

No but survival games Iike this thrive from it, and most of the time it’s optional so personally I find the constant anti pvp crap to be pretty cringey. You won’t have to play pvp so why do you care about the ones that do? Just seems odd to actively want to dictate how people should play. Not necessarily you just in general. All the “anti PVP” people need to get over themselves. You have your game mode so let us have ours.

Dnno what’s fun in it, but all that matters is that they release this game this year

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por Karumati:

Originalmente postado por Jake:

No but survival games Iike this thrive from it, and most of the time it’s optional so personally I find the constant anti pvp crap to be pretty cringey. You won’t have to play pvp so why do you care about the ones that do? Just seems odd to actively want to dictate how people should play. Not necessarily you just in general. All the “anti PVP” people need to get over themselves. You have your game mode so let us have ours.

Dnno what’s fun in it, but all that matters is that they release this game this year

Because when it comes to PVE once you have collected and built everything there’s nothing more to do besides explore the map as much as you can. PVP however makes it so there’s always something to do. There’s always someone to raid or to possibly raid you, constant what if scenarios and diplomacy around real clans made of real people with real grudges. There’s nothing more satisfying than getting back at a clan that’s been raiding/harassing you.

[Moryn93]

so you want a Rust Clone?

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por ShgZ Acrone93:

so you want a Rust Clone?

Never played rust never got into it so no.

[3_Replicates]

Shoehorning a PvP mode into a game that isn’t designed with this in mind from the bottom up is a terrible idea. The complexity of this games economy, research, and the villager combat system makes it looks unbalanceable as a more PvP RTS game. Honestly, the only way you could implement it would be using a system like BannerLord, where you have instanced player only fights, but you may as well play bannerlord at that point.

[Mr. Nobody]

Originalmente postado por 3_Replicates:

Shoehorning a PvP mode into a game that isn’t designed with this in mind from the bottom up is a terrible idea. The complexity of this games economy, research, and the villager combat system makes it looks unbalanceable as a more PvP RTS game. Honestly, the only way you could implement it would be using a system like BannerLord, where you have instanced player only fights, but you may as well play bannerlord at that point.

or for PVP servers you simply remove most if not all NPC villages and make it so the players have to build everything and its a player run economy.