Searching for alternatives to increase the 6 willpower based magic skills.

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My character is unable to cast spells in daylight or night yet has all 6 magic skills as either primary or major skill. Are there any alternatives to increase destruction, restoration, alteration, illusion, mysticism and thaumaturgy besides trainers?

[fracs]

1 get room at tavern
2 make cheap spell
3 spam cast until 0 mana
4 rest
5 repeat

[76561199547600355]

Postat inițial de fracs:

1 get room at tavern
2 make cheap spell
3 spam cast until 0 mana
4 rest
5 repeat

I can't cast spells, any other way?

[fracs]

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Postat inițial de fracs:

1 get room at tavern
2 make cheap spell
3 spam cast until 0 mana
4 rest
5 repeat

I can't cast spells, any other way?

u cant because of disadvantage or is there other reason? If you want magic item crafter but mages guild is not for u then join temple of julianos

[76561199547600355]

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I can't cast spells, any other way?

u cant because of disadvantage or is there other reason? If you want magic item crafter but mages guild is not for u then join temple of julianos

Can't cast in daylight nor night and got 0 spellpoints, do magic items increase your skills?

[fracs]

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u cant because of disadvantage or is there other reason? If you want magic item crafter but mages guild is not for u then join temple of julianos

Can't cast in daylight nor night and got 0 spellpoints, do magic items increase your skills?

sure read if interested
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Enchanting_Items

[Zsrai]

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Postat inițial de fracs:

u cant because of disadvantage or is there other reason? If you want magic item crafter but mages guild is not for u then join temple of julianos

Can't cast in daylight nor night and got 0 spellpoints, do magic items increase your skills?

If you can't cast in daylight or night, you can't cast spells at all. Did you just follow some build on YouTube and not read what different advantages and disadvantages do?

[76561199547600355]

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Can't cast in daylight nor night and got 0 spellpoints, do magic items increase your skills?

If you can't cast in daylight or night, you can't cast spells at all. Did you just follow some build on YouTube and not read what different advantages and disadvantages do?

Thankfully I can cast spells from enchanted items. I tried to build the hardest/worst class you can create in this game.

[lonetrav]

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Are there any alternatives to level up destruction, restoration, alteration, illusion, mysticism and thaumaturgy besides trainers?

I don't understand the question. There's nolthing wrong with using trainers, but this is by no means necessary.
The simple answer is: Use the skills. How you do it is your decision. To earn money to be able to pay the trainers is one way, To cast spells is another.
Why would you want to develop these skills in the first place? To get better at using them, to get Willpower higher? ...

[76561199547600355]

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Postat inițial de Qube Z-one:

Are there any alternatives to level up destruction, restoration, alteration, illusion, mysticism and thaumaturgy besides trainers?

I don't understand the question. There's nolthing wrong with using trainers, but this is by no means necessary.
The simple answer is: Use the skills. How you do it is your decision. To earn money to be able to pay the trainers is one way, To cast spells is another.
Why would you want to develop these skills in the first place? To get better at using them, to get Willpower higher? ...

I need them to level up my character, trainers only train me up to 51% of the skills and due to being unable to cast spells I saw no other way to advance any further.

[Zsrai]

You know how leveling works right? You only need to level all Primaries, 2 Majors, and 1 Minor.

[lonetrav]

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I need them to level up my character, trainers only train me up to 51% of the skills and due to being unable to cast spells I saw no other way to advance any further.

Thanks. But why do you want to improve the 6 skils? To improve magical resistance (it's what better Willpower gives you beyond spellcasting)? You can do it with the help of the Item Maker, yes, But is the benefit worth the effort? At least you would have to make a career in the Temple of Julianos (I'm no expert in enchantments, because I don't use them).

Well, I suppose the answer is that you are experimenting (which is a great way to enjoy the TES games, in my opinion). To play a character who can't cast spells, but isn't played as a pure fighter (or thief) must be interesting indeed!

[76561199547600355]

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You know how leveling works right? You only need to level all Primaries, 2 Majors, and 1 Minor.

This still means 5 of the 6 magic skills for me.

[Zsrai]

Postat inițial de Qube Z-one:

This still means 5 of the 6 magic skills for me.

It doesn't sound like you make a hard build so much as a stupid one, honestly.

[76561199547600355]

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This still means 5 of the 6 magic skills for me.

It doesn't sound like you make a hard build so much as a stupid one, honestly.

That is true, so I made a new one. This time I got all weapon skills as either primary or major skill, however I denied myself of being able to equip weapons via disadvantages. I should have a much harder time playing, since I also can't cast spells. The only way to deal damage now should be either enchanted items or hand-to-hand combat, but there we have the next problem because I kinda have less than 21 points in agility and strength and only 34 in endurance sooo... I can't even hit the first rat before dying of exhaustion.

[fracs]

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It doesn't sound like you make a hard build so much as a stupid one, honestly.

That is true, so I made a new one. This time I got all weapon skills as either primary or major skill, however I denied myself of being able to equip weapons via disadvantages. I should have a much harder time playing, since I also can't cast spells. The only way to deal damage now should be either enchanted items or hand-to-hand combat, but there we have the next problem because I kinda have less than 21 points in agility and strength and only 34 in endurance sooo... I can't even hit the first rat before dying of exhaustion.

for the next challenge make a character with different languages as primary/major skills only.