Denuvo

[ValentB]

On a 13 yo PSP port

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH

[Ani]

Imagine putting Denuvo on a PSP Port, Atlus management is on a whole new level of incompetence

[Sylpheed]

why portable not FES????

[HerbalNekoTea]

Be me, having played P3F (FES) for the male route on my PS2 Slim with SMB storage on OPL (Open PS2 Loader), know i would like to do the female route, own 2 PSP Go, 1 PSP 1K, 2 PS Vita OLED, 2 PS Vita TV, PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim, all modified, i am not gonna buy that game that required reverification when i can just emulate an undub PSP version on my steam deck at this point. "If you want to sell, you need to sell a product more conveniant than piracy." -Gabe Nowell If it did not had denuvo, it would had been a day one sale like all the Sega game on Steam... but since idk when i will need to not have internet and i am always making sure i got my 9 NAS ready for that, well, i see no point at this point. I would had nothing against denuvo if it was not about project Diva on Steam being ruined by it killing the frame rate and reverifying itself in the middle of a nice combo, killing my perfect. Nothing more infuriating about it than to ♥♥♥♥ your best full combo. Sega, you had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years to realise it's killing sale, waiting for Chapter 11 filing mean it will be too late for that. I remember when Dragon Quest 11 was dropping Denuvo on Steam DB and had a sale at the same time, what do you think i did, press add to cart and purchased it. Obviously you guys did not learn with New Genesis either. Also, has a Linux player, the fact your game run on the Steam deck but fail on normal Linux and that the community have to implement the dang wine library missing from wine emulation and have to issue an hotfix in 2 weeks after your release make me want to even less support you guys. Not counting that you had a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ translator at the beginning of the project that you thankfully fired. Will keep my $20 and reinvest it in another game at this point, I got a 500gb hdd full of next fest demo to try and see what good indie's coming and buy those indie that have a good product in the future. If it was not of Next Fest, i would had missed on so many hidden gem. A lot of them was totally worth my money.

[CheeseBoar]

Honestly, I can barely even be angry at Denuvo in this one, I just can't stop laughing. Do they not realize how easy it is to legally emulate the PSP version of this game *which you can still buy on the PlayStation Store,* and it won't be a glorified rental when you do? SEGA is so ridiculous that it's genuinely funny, I honestly don't know what's funnier, this with Denuvo, or Sonic Origins with Denuvo.

If anyone needs me, I'll be deciding which version of Persona 3 I want to legally play on my PC: Portable, which is playable in 4K and has mods to add HD visuals and to restore cutscenes, or FES, which is playable in 4K, isn't missing a giant piece of the story, and has mods to let you quick travel and to control your party members individually. But hey, the Denuvo-crusted PC version looks great, too.

[Icewind Dale Wilson]

Wouldn't want anyone cracking this Steam game, that already has Steam as DRM, and that anyone can easily download and emulate for free even on their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ phone, now would we?

What a bunch of clowns lol.

[DDiamond]

No purchase with Denuvo DRM. What kinda company offers paying customers an inferior product? A 2010 video game that still remains best enjoyed on an PSP emulator.

Get your act together, Atlus.

[Stoibs]

Didn't notice a single issue with it in Soul Hackers 2, nor P5R so far.
Had to go and have a look and apparently P4G has it also? Wouldn't have known.



This isn't the days of Dishonored 2 or Prey where it directly affects framerate and performance anymore. I literally don't even know its present or there half the time in games these days unless it's pointed out to me.

I guess I'm genuinely a little out of the loop as to what to big deal is

[lukaself]

Adding Denuvo to this game that has been available for illegitimate consumption for more than a decade is completely and utterly irrational. They're not even trying to hide that piracy is a scapegoat used to implement anti-consumer ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ such as planned obsolescence anymore.

Enough is enough. I'm amazed at how stupid they think their fans are.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Stoibs:

I guess I'm genuinely a little out of the loop as to what to big deal is

Denuvo is a DRM which needs a recurrent online connection but not a constant one so you can play offline for a while. However, the duration of the offline token is at the liberty of the publisher and is never disclosed. If you trigger Denuvo for any reason, it locks you out of the game for 24 hours at which point you need to go back online to re-validate.

Since a video is worth a thousand words, you can see it happening right here: Can't play MH:Rise because of DRM (live in front of 60k viewers)[clips.twitch.tv]
Also if Denuvo servers are down on their side, games without a valid activation token will not start, online or not: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/a-great-day-for-drm-as-denuvo-lapse-renders-tons-of-games-temporarily-unplayable/
It also continues to inconvenience individual users at random to this day.

People recently reported that it seems to trigger a 24 hour lockout if you play games on desktop computer and switch to the Steam Deck: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1687950/discussions/0/3489752656786031116/?ctp=2#c3489752656790504351

A few developers also came on record citing performance issues for refusing to use it: https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-drops-denuvo-ahead-of-launch-to-avoid-performance-problems/.

Finally my own issue, beyond the online requirement, is that it's an expensive and complex to implement piece of midlleware, wasting development resources that could have been used to improve the port/game instead.

[Stoibs]

^ Ah thanks.
I can see how this would suck for the Steam Deck and wasn't aware of that.
I'm just all on Desktop on my end and hadn't encountered any of this before.
(I'm still in one of Gaben's hated countries waiting for my turn to be able to order one in the first place )

[【𝙎𝙥𝙚𝙠】🧉]

Originally posted by ValentB:

On a 13 yo PSP port

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAH

A bunch of megaman games from GBA will also have Denuvo

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by lukaself:

I'm amazed at how stupid they think their fans are. :clickbutton:

I mean, just watch how well this sells.

Originally posted by 【𝙎𝙥𝙚𝙠】🎄:

A bunch of megaman games from GBA will also have Denuvo

Which is stupid as hell, but at least Capcom actually removes Denuvo.

[WhiteLezard]

Given how only one person cracks Denuvo and said person loathes anime games, I can see why.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by WhiteLezard:

Given how only one person cracks Denuvo and said person loathes anime games, I can see why.

You can see why they put Denuvo in a PSP game from 2009 that you can easily get after a five-second Google search? Because I sure can't. (I'm not advocating piracy by any means, I own my PSP copy, but let's be realistic with ourselves about how Denuvo is totally worthless for a release like this.)

[Gubtubus Webble]

Ah yes. Here's the "denuvo sucks, not buying post." Knew I'd find it. Be honest, you weren't gonna buy it anyways.