FES Content As DLC

[aus741]

Who else can see this happening with P3P. That the FES content will be added to this version at some point, but as a paid expansion; similar to how Dante was restored to the Shin Megami Tensei 3 remaster with a paid DLC.

[KeiserKnight]

I dont. Reason being is that The Answer and a bunch of other things FES had was never made for the portable so they would have to recode and redesign a LOT of things to add that. Like someone said they might as well do either a remake or port FES instead of going through that kind of trouble.

Remember, FES was for a console and P3P was for a handheld that didnt match its specs.

[aus741]

Originally posted by KeiserKnight:

I dont. Reason being is that The Answer and a bunch of other things FES had was never made for the portable so they would have to recode and redesign a LOT of things to add that. Like someone said they might as well do either a remake or port FES instead of going through that kind of trouble.

Remember, FES was for a console and P3P was for a handheld that didnt match its specs.

Yeah I could see the FES content getting it's own separate release as a stand alone game.

[KeiserKnight]

Again, I am a fan of Persona and FES over the P3P, but that it still alot of work to do since they would have to remove and code things from the original. Its one of those 'would have done it' situations where if they really wanted to do that or anything remotely like it they would have. Anything doing with FES has an extremely low chance of being ported unless the rumored remake happens. Emulators or the actual disc are the only ways to play it sadly.

[Violet Aeon Snow]

It's baffling to me that anyone actually wants FES. FES was garbage.

The Answer wasn't worth playing, you couldn't control your party members, said party members got fatigued in Tartarus - forcing you to leave after a random amount of time, and FES released before Persona 4 meaning it does not have any of P4's quality of life features like P3P does.

[REAPER]

Originally posted by Aeon:

It's baffling to me that anyone actually wants FES. FES was garbage.

The Answer wasn't worth playing, you couldn't control your party members, said party members got fatigued in Tartarus - forcing you to leave after a random amount of time, and FES released before Persona 4 meaning it does not have any of P4's quality of life features like P3P does.

a large portion of the persona 3 fanbase would disagree with you there also most people are not denying that overall game play wise p3p is the better version for combat and quality of life improvements but everything past that is better in fes the cut scenes story and characters and the interaction between them just blows p3p out of the water from a story and character standpoint and it is a rpg series a lot of people care about the story and characters more then gameplay thats not to say there are people that don,t prefer the opposite but at the same time i am also not hating on p3p since game play wise it is better atlus should have just created a definite version that combines the benefits of both as it stands right now the best way to enjoy the game is to play fes on the ps2 emulator for the story then replay the p3p version as the female protagonist for the rest since she does add quite abit and change several of the social links in a good way might as well add there also a patch for the ps2 version that gives you the ability to control party members since it was found within the games code just never enabled

[Violet Aeon Snow]

Originally posted by REAPER:

a large portion of the persona 3 fanbase would disagree with you there also most people are not denying that overall game play wise p3p is the better version for combat and quality of life improvements but everything past that is better in fes the cut scenes story and characters and the interaction between them just blows p3p out of the water from a story and character standpoint and it is a rpg series a lot of people care about the story and characters more then gameplay that not to say there are people that prefer the opposite but i am also not hating on p3p since game play wise it is better atlus should have just created a definite version that combines the benefits of both as it stands right now the best way to enjoy the game is to play fes on the ps2 emulator for the story then replay the p3p version as the female protagonist for the rest

The story, characters, and interactions between them don't change at all in P3, P3FES, or P3P; with the exception of the FEMC's route where things are changed to adjust to the main character being a different person.

The presentation changes, but you can't act like the story is massively different because of the way its handled. I would also definitely disagree with you on the idea that going back and playing the original is the definitive way to experience the story. P3 and P3FES have cutscenes made with Playstation 2 graphics, so you're not missing much by not having them. And again, The Answer is not worth playing. That's not debatable.

After all, plenty of people have played The Answer and uploaded their games online, so if seeing the conclusion to the story is that important to you, then just look it up online. That's the definitive way to experience P3/FES's story. Seeing someone else suffer through playing it but still actually experiencing the story yourself. And I'm saying all of this as someone who not only played through FES myself but played FES long before I played P3P.

If I could go back and tell myself not to bother, I gladly would; because it is a miserable experience in every way. P3P manages to get the story perfectly, and The Answer can easily be seen without needing to play it yourself.

[REAPER]

Originally posted by Aeon:

Originally posted by REAPER:

a large portion of the persona 3 fanbase would disagree with you there also most people are not denying that overall game play wise p3p is the better version for combat and quality of life improvements but everything past that is better in fes the cut scenes story and characters and the interaction between them just blows p3p out of the water from a story and character standpoint and it is a rpg series a lot of people care about the story and characters more then gameplay that not to say there are people that prefer the opposite but i am also not hating on p3p since game play wise it is better atlus should have just created a definite version that combines the benefits of both as it stands right now the best way to enjoy the game is to play fes on the ps2 emulator for the story then replay the p3p version as the female protagonist for the rest

The story, characters, and interactions between them don't change at all in P3, P3FES, or P3P; with the exception of the FEMC's route where things are changed to adjust to the main character being a different person.

The presentation changes, but you can't act like the story is massively different because of the way its handled. I would also definitely disagree with you on the idea that going back and playing the original is the definitive way to experience the story. P3 and P3FES have cutscenes made with Playstation 2 graphics, so you're not missing much by not having them. And again, The Answer is not worth playing. That's not debatable.

After all, plenty of people have played The Answer and uploaded their games online, so if seeing the conclusion to the story is that important to you, then just look it up online. That's the definitive way to experience P3/FES's story. Seeing someone else suffer through playing it but still actually experiencing the story yourself. And I'm saying all of this as someone who not only played through FES myself but played FES long before I played P3P.

If I could go back and tell myself not to bother, I gladly would; because it is a miserable experience in every way. P3P manages to get the story perfectly, and The Answer can easily be seen without needing to play it yourself.

ive played both and beaten both still prefer fes myself ill give you that graphics wise but the presentation is important never said the story was different in a major way i said it was better with the cut scenes and the ability to interact in the environment which is not debatable since not only is that lacking in p3p but you do lose a large amount of quality from the character interactions as well as the world it self since it is now point and click basically and as for the answer that is debatable to a degree since there are people that do like it is not perfect and definitively has it issues but there are people that enjoy it and like i said above i do recommend p3p for it game play improvements and female mc after getting the most from the story from fes i also said that atlus should have just done a definite edition similar to persona 4 golden since that would solve the issue of one version being better for story fes which again is not debatable but one version is hands down better for game play this version p3p and for your argument of just watch the cut scenes online most would agree that defeats the purpose of enjoying the game and story together for yourself what the point of playing a rpg if you skip all the story on a first run then just watch the cut scenes online it is a rpg first and foremost before gameplay same things applies to graphics it nice to have good quality there but id rather have better focus on the story then game play over it and i am not the only one that feels that way when it comes to these classics

[REAPER]

making a separate post to add to the above so it does not get any longer but here a video that further backs up this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDOqUvrnaUg even that person who started with p3p then went and played fes shares the same thoughts p3p is better for game play fes is better for story/character interaction since there are cut scenes and better interaction not just point and click visual novel style and even they admit would have been better if atlus combined the 2 to make a definite version like golden is for 4 and royal is for 5 and again that coming from someone that started with p3p and really just boils down to the type of player you are if you prefer story and everything over game play then fes is the way to go if you enjoy game play over story then p3p is the way to go it is that simple unless atlus makes a definite version in the future in short both versions are good but succeed at different things

[mdesaleah]

Not happening.

If Atlus cant even port PSP backgrounds properly, do you really expect them to add the missing cutscenes and overworld exploring xD?

[REAPER]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Not happening.

If Atlus cant even port PSP backgrounds properly, do you really expect them to add the missing cutscenes and overworld exploring xD?

i don,t expect them to add it as dlc tbh i think our best bet is if the rumor about a remake is true think that has better odds of happening then a dlc for it

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by REAPER:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Not happening.

If Atlus cant even port PSP backgrounds properly, do you really expect them to add the missing cutscenes and overworld exploring xD?

i don,t expect them to add it as dlc tbh i think our best bet is if the rumor about a remake is true think that has better odds of happening then a dlc for it

Rumors about a 3 Remake have as much evidence as Prime Trilogy on Switch.

So none at all but everyone likes to spam the rumors even with a total lack of evidence

But at least with the latter it makes more sense to happen eventually, a P3 Remake has no background as to why they’d even do it now

[REAPER]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by REAPER:

i don,t expect them to add it as dlc tbh i think our best bet is if the rumor about a remake is true think that has better odds of happening then a dlc for it

Rumors about a 3 Remake have as much evidence as Prime Trilogy on Switch.

So none at all but everyone likes to spam the rumors even with a total lack of evidence

But at least with the latter it makes more sense to happen eventually, a P3 Remake has no background as to why they’d even do it now

like i said above never said the rumor was true just that if it turned out to be down the line it be nice and prob have better odds and tbh the reason that has higher odds then the fes content being added in as dlc is it would require a large amount of rework to put in all the stuff from fes into this version since one was released on ps2 the other on psp it prob would have been easier on them if they did the reverse and added the psp content onto the fes version given that apparently in the coding full party control for example was a thing it was just never turned on which is why the ps2 mod was so easy to make and enable it and on top of that the ps2 version had the cut scenes already so just tweaking the game play to match the psp version would be a lot simpler then re adding in all the cut scenes the ability to walk around and the interaction between the character in the 3d environment vs how it is text based in the psp one they could have put this out there as a way for persona 3 to be available on other platforms because if you think about it the other games are much more accessible then 3 is overall with the exception of person 1 and 2 ether way we will have to wait and see if they do a remake for now we will have to wait and see if the rumors are true which could go ether way since it could be fake like you said

[Narmy]

Originally posted by Aeon:

It's baffling to me that anyone actually wants FES. FES was garbage.

The Answer wasn't worth playing, you couldn't control your party members, said party members got fatigued in Tartarus - forcing you to leave after a random amount of time, and FES released before Persona 4 meaning it does not have any of P4's quality of life features like P3P does.

You can control your party members as much as you need to, fatigue is a good mechanic, and P3P doesn't even have manual skill inheritence which is really the only QOL feature needed. You can completely ignore The Answer and still have a better experience with FES, since the story presentation is extremely important in an RPG focused on the story.

Not to mention P3P also made some bad changes to the battle system that have carried on to the future games. Like not being able to pick any kind of weapon for the main character, and enemies/allies being able to act the same turn they get up, taking out a strategic element of the battle.

[Terra]

I feel like not having weapon selection is only a problem in 3, where they still had strike/slash/pierce. In a world where all physical damage is just "physical" or in rare cases "gun", not having weapon selection doesn't matter.

The real problem is how godawful it is to swing a naginata. It's so tricky to actually nail a fleeing shadow with that thing while swords serve perfectly fine.

[Foulcher]

It is not the same game and if they released P3P is probably because they could not port any PS2 version, even OG P3

So no

And even P3 OG is better than this castrated version (which was only fine because we played on PSP)