Steam Reviews are Meaningless

[Frid]

Steam Achievements:
Defeat Baichang = 86% of Players Completed First Boss
Defeat Yingzhao = 61.7% of Players Completed Second Boss (about 2h to 4h in game)


ALL REVIEWS: 95% Overwhelmingly Positive from 21,000 Users.

How? How are reviews legit , come with any value when 38% didnt even get passed 2nd boss?

( I have completed Cuphead with 100 hours, all bosses S-Rank except 2 bosses, and I must say : this game with its 4 sprite per second bosses and a very strict '' input / actions per second requirement... is a really bad gameplay experience)

[Clockwork]

Thanks for reminding me to leave a review. Game is fantastic

[Seisachtheia]

A lot of players will refund the game realizing that they don't enjoy it and it isn't their kind of entertainment. There's no reason to leave a negative review if that's the case, you can not like something and think it's well designed. By your own logic, Cuphead's reviews are meaningless because fewer players managed to even beat a boss (77% for first boss compared to 86%) and barely half (53%) of players were able to beat the bosses on the first island.

[Fenix]

You don't have to complete the game to know if it's good or not.
Also not a lot of people leave reviews,

[TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER]

games a banger, skill issue yeah steam reviews r meaningless aggregate scores are rarely ever reflective...

[Senki]

you must be new if you only realized that now

even if they did finish the game, steam's review system is garbage and most users have no idea about how to review games anyway

It's basically the equivalent of the like/dislike feature on Youtube

That being said, this game is amazing. Cuphead experience doesn't prove anything, the games are completely different. If you played parry focused games before like Sekiro, that would matter more.

[Forblaze]

Those aren't the percentage of the same thing though. 95% positive reviews means that 95% of people that left a review left a positive review, not that 95% of people that played the game left a positive review.

[leo_gear]

I don't think you know how percentages work.

FYI, 61% of the hundreds of thousands of overall players reaching a point in the game that is tracked by steam servers will contain fractions within it, like that 21,000 players who left reviews.

Most players don't actually leave reviews for games and most of the time, the fraction of players that do leave reviews are more prone to leave bad reviews. There it is again, a fraction within a fraction. Hard to grasp, I know...

[Nero]

To be fair the kind of people that don't progress too far are the same to probably get a refund, after which why bother with the review.

Besides, if I refunded the game and made a comment like "The difficulty is unfair" or "The controls are bad" then it would probably only result in a bunch of clown face awards from the "Git Gud" crowd who can't handle criticism of a game they like.

How highly you regard the reviews is another factor. Regardless of how positive a game is reviewed I never read the good reviews, only the bad ones, since, in my experience, fanbois are far, far too quick to overlook any legitimate problems a game may have.

[Frid]

Originally posted by Nero:

To be fair the kind of people that don't progress too far are the same to probably get a refund, after which why bother with the review.

thats the point I was trying to make is that 38% didnt get a refund, because they could not complete 2nd boss.

where in Cuphead 70% completed first boss, meaning 30% could not and refund option was still available. Cuphead bosses are ~2 minutes long on a good run.

However, here, after 2 hours, for 38% refund option is not available, because its 2nd boss, which is a real boss, and player is too far in game.

Thats what I find strange, game really introduced itself after 2 hours and reviews are at 95%.

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by Frid:

thats the point I was trying to make is that 38% didnt get a refund, because they could not complete 2nd boss.

where in Cuphead 70% completed first boss, meaning 30% could not and refund option was still available. Cuphead bosses are ~2 minutes long on a good run.

However, here, after 2 hours, for 38% refund option is not available, because its 2nd boss, which is a real boss, and player is too far in game.

Thats what I find strange, game really introduced itself after 2 hours and reviews are at 95%.

I don't really get the connection between not beating the second boss and the review score though. Some people weren't able to defeat the second boss and did not leave a negative review. There's no contradiction there.

[TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER]

Originally posted by Nero:

To be fair the kind of people that don't progress too far are the same to probably get a refund, after which why bother with the review.

Besides, if I refunded the game and made a comment like "The difficulty is unfair" or "The controls are bad" then it would probably only result in a bunch of clown face awards from the "Git Gud" crowd who can't handle criticism of a game they like.

How highly you regard the reviews is another factor. Regardless of how positive a game is reviewed I never read the good reviews, only the bad ones, since, in my experience, fanbois are far, far too quick to overlook any legitimate problems a game may have.

or if you didnt play the game ie within 2 hrs, you shouldnt review the game as you know ♥♥♥♥ all abt it, "far too quick to overlook any legit problems" sweety you didnt even play the game how would you even be able to determine if these are in fact "problems" or not.. reviews from people who didnt even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ play the game, who cares lmao, wish there was a way to sort by achievement completion or time played so i dont have to see the useless clowns such as yourself... like dont even bother leaving a review especially if you got stuck on an "unfair" and "poorly designed" fight realistically most of the time the issue is you... it really is :( the only societal issue is that your opinion is counted equally to people with more than 2 braincells to rub together what a shame:/

[Fenix]

Tweaker, you can play some games, and from the jump see it is a buggy mess, and want to warn people away, this is rare, sure but because of that fact, no I don't agree with can't review before the 2 hours thing... some games you just know.

[Amble]

Is this your first time noticing that achievement rates across basically all games are quite low? The overwhelming majority of games on steam show less than 50% of players even beating the games they buy.

If you're seriously using achievements as some sort of proof that the reviews are fake, or that the game is actually bad, then you're being completely ridiculous. But I'm not actually sure what your point is, if there is one.

On the topic of achievements, how have you only beaten 3 bosses in 20 hours of game time? That's close to how long the entire game should take.

[mmm crunchy celery]

A lot of people don't leave reviews. It's 95% positive of all players who ended up reviewing the game, not 95% positive of all players who bought the game.

[DiscoZombie]

Steam reviews are definitely weird. Super hard games often seem to have the best reviews, which is really counterintuitive, because super hard games are definitely NOT for everyone. But it seems like, with hard games, people leave positive reviews to prove they're badass and can handle hard games, and people don't leave negative reviews out of fear of looking like a wuss who can't handle it.

Meanwhile, some other masterpieces get torn apart in reviews because of some small technical flaw or something.