Full Control vs Water Flow?

[Anderson]

What's the general preference here? I used Full Control for most of the game, though the slower chargeup was a tad annoying.
I did end up switching to Water Flow both to more easily deal with the regenerating pink mutants, and also for the Final Boss, because I couldn't land Full Control reliably there, and instead opted to spam 1-charge talismans every chance I could.

[Seisachtheia]

Very much depends on playstyle I think. My first playthrough I used Water Flow very heavily because it's the easiest to use, but on the next 3 playthroughs I never touched it and favoured Full Control / Qi Blast the entire time. If you know the enemies and their openings very well these are superior styles I think, but if you are less confident or want to run a quick attack blade build / charge attack build Water Flow is probably better as you'll be using a lot of Qi on your attacks.

[nana]

i couldn't utilize Full Control during the final boss. the only move i found gave enough of a window to go 3-5 qi charges reliably was the iai dash attack and that's only possible if afterwards she starts a regular string rather than a talisman grab.

Qi blast probably works well. i guess it really depends on what you do in your punish windows. i chose to go 1 attack + waterflow talisman to punish every single string.
i can see charge attack working but it's an extra button to press and hold. that's something y ou have to get used to.

[Pnume]

Originally posted by nana:

i couldn't utilize Full Control during the final boss. the only move i found gave enough of a window to go 3-5 qi charges reliably was the iai dash attack and that's only possible if afterwards she starts a regular string rather than a talisman grab.

Qi blast probably works well. i guess it really depends on what you do in your punish windows. i chose to go 1 attack + waterflow talisman to punish every single string.
i can see charge attack working but it's an extra button to press and hold. that's something y ou have to get used to.

She has at least 2 attacks that can be punished reliably with a 5 qi charge full control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7qg4_BHKhU

I use it quite a few time in the video, at least in phase 1 and 2.
Phase 3 is a mess. I have no idea what I'm doing with some of her new attacks!

[aeoleron9]

Full control against bosses. With Eigong I actually switched mid fight to get arrows in phase 2.

[nine_gamers]

I've exclusively used water flow throughout both of my playthroughs, and it definitely seems the best once mastered (especially once upgraded into the enhanced version). it allows for additional slash damage during the talisman's 'fuse' and lets you get in a lot more talisman hits than you normally would be able to, though full control might be a bit better if you really know what you're doing.

[Sir_Sam_Vimes]

Enhanced Full Control has the words "massive damage" in its description. As soon as I read that I was locked in and never took it off.

Zero regrets.

[Mr.NoNa]

Originally posted by Sir_Sam_Vimes:

Enhanced Full Control has the words "massive damage" in its description. As soon as I read that I was locked in and never took it off.

Zero regrets.

Yeah, but it isn't really massive, tbh. When I finally unlocked that, I thought the difference was kind of negligible. However, use the jade that allows you to not be interrupted when using charms, and Full Control is the way to go.

I can't bring myself to use Water Flow because I prefer heavy damage, and Qi Blast is too slow for me after trying Full Control. However, gaining sand after a full Qi Blast is incredible.

[aeoleron9]

It does insane damage if you inflict a ton of inner damage first, eg. using certain jades to deflect damage onto bosses.

[花园骑士]

Water flow deals 2 charge Chi blast damage and Fully Charged Full control deals 7 charge Chi blast damage, not counting internal damage on attach, so theoretically Water flow is the most damage efficient one if you can spam fast enough

[Nortic]

Y'all are forgetting that full charged full control stuns bosses (at least it stuns Eigong every times) which gives you enough time to use the medecine pipe safely even without quick dose which is very good utility