The Jiequan fight Gene Eradicator?

[Amrehlu]

So... does it just force you to use the Gene Eradicator even if you intentionally don't use it? Cause I didn't use it and the fight was still a joke. It was fun, but it was easy and I was kind of hoping not using the gene eradicator would make it harder somehow? Anyone know if it was just an "illusion of choice" type thing or is the fight just easy in general?

[Cumbusted]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Skater901:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Cumbusted:

Does doing that change anything for the plot or is it just the staggers and additional dialogue?

Just makes the fight a bit easier, doesn't change anything for the plot, I don't think.

Neat. He's getting poisoned then, my old woman reflexes ain't no bueno.
I seen people play Phase 2 that's gonna be fun.

[Altana]

Sooo... I didn't get that option because I gave that thing to someone else, think it was Shinnong. Weeeeell, was pretty doable.

[Exophase]

Am I the only one who immediately recycled it like a total chump? I was scratching my head wondering why that receptacle was there.

[Skater901]

Wait what? You can recycle the gene eradicator or give it away?? I don't think that was an option for me. Are you sure you just didn't miss getting it?

[Seisachtheia]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Skater901:

Wait what? You can recycle the gene eradicator or give it away?? I don't think that was an option for me. Are you sure you just didn't miss getting it?

It is now possible to recycle the gene eradicator, I also found this on my last playthrough...however, I do not know if you have to recycle it BEFORE the fight, and it just sits in your inventory after, or not. However, you can recycle the gene eradicator for 1600 jin

[Amrehlu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seisachtheia:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Skater901:

Wait what? You can recycle the gene eradicator or give it away?? I don't think that was an option for me. Are you sure you just didn't miss getting it?

It is now possible to recycle the gene eradicator, I also found this on my last playthrough...however, I do not know if you have to recycle it BEFORE the fight, and it just sits in your inventory after, or not. However, you can recycle the gene eradicator for 1600 jin

That seems... like a bad idea. I bet a lot of people are going to just recycle it without realizing it, cause there are several other items that only exist to be recycled so it won't stick out.

These are the devs that made the achievement be for fighting the weaker fight instead of the stronger fight so it's kind of in line with a slightly strange way of thinking I suppose.

I imagine it's just meant as an "extra reward" for people that don't use it, kinda.

[aub]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shiro:

It's partially a side story point, showing how Yi isn't above weakening his enemies. But sure you can beat him "fair", but why. He didn't seem that fun to fight.

yi-brained response

[Skater901]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amrehlu:

That seems... like a bad idea. I bet a lot of people are going to just recycle it without realizing it, cause there are several other items that only exist to be recycled so it won't stick out.

I mean it's not like it changes much about the fight, so I think it's fine. :P

[Amrehlu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Skater901:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amrehlu:

That seems... like a bad idea. I bet a lot of people are going to just recycle it without realizing it, cause there are several other items that only exist to be recycled so it won't stick out.

I mean it's not like it changes much about the fight, so I think it's fine. :P

Yeah, that was my original post's point. Even the "hard mode" for him is super easy. It's just a bummer that now there are 2 ways for people to miss the achievement.

If you fight the "hard mode" of him you don't get it, and now if you aren't paying enough attention you miss it. Just a bit of a bummer that could be easily avoided by the devs.

[aeoleron9]

Protip:

Keep a save backup if you want to face the 100% Jie, but don't want to replay the whole game for the achievement to poison the ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[roddy]

My opinion: the recycle option should only be unlocked after the relevant boss fight, especially for blind playthrough players wanting to try for 100%.

[Hanamigi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amrehlu:

Oh... so I did "hard mode"... well. Like I said, it was fun but with that kind of option I was really hoping for something a bit more hardcore.

Though, I'm on Lady Ethereal now and she is the hardest fight in the game so far by a massive margin and super fun with amazing presentation and vibe. The platforming leading up to her sucked and wasn't fun, but the fight is making up for it.

In my case, I fought Jiequan with the gene eradicator and found it quite hard compared to lady Ethereal. Interesting to see how bosses are perceived differently based on taste. I also liked the mindscape platforming.

[HornyDragon]

I fought him fair and square, then I got the gene eradicator and recycled it like a chad(?)

[Amrehlu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hanamigi:

In my case, I fought Jiequan with the gene eradicator and found it quite hard compared to lady Ethereal. Interesting to see how bosses are perceived differently based on taste. I also liked the mindscape platforming.

In the end I had a tough time with her (took 6 tries I think total, second most in the game) because I refused to listen to what the fight was telling me and just decided, "No, I know how to deal with this attack." (the attack where she breaks the platform) and then did the wrong thing 5 or so times in a row until I realized I just had to jump and dodge. Just one of those stupid mental barriers that gets everyone from time to time. It was still a fun fight and have some of the best visuals leading up to it and during.

The final boss is honestly the only boss in the whole game I would actually put the label of "difficult" on (I don't know the attempt count, but it took about 1 1/2 hours of tries, longer than even any Souls or Sekiro boss has ever taken me). I only used deflect and the uh... other deflect where you charge it, to do damage to her with those and then detonate that damage when it built up with a talisman. I almost never swung at her. Though even without being stubborn like that, that last boss is extremely fun and magnitudes tougher than any other boss in the game.

All that aside, most of the bosses were a good time. Though some of the mini-bosses can suck my nuts, some of those jerks were just unenjoyable/frustrating trash even when they only took 1 try I left their little fights annoyed.

[Hanamigi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amrehlu:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hanamigi:

In my case, I fought Jiequan with the gene eradicator and found it quite hard compared to lady Ethereal. Interesting to see how bosses are perceived differently based on taste. I also liked the mindscape platforming.

In the end I had a tough time with her (took 6 tries I think total, second most in the game) because I refused to listen to what the fight was telling me and just decided, "No, I know how to deal with this attack." (the attack where she breaks the platform) and then did the wrong thing 5 or so times in a row until I realized I just had to jump and dodge. Just one of those stupid mental barriers that gets everyone from time to time. It was still a fun fight and have some of the best visuals leading up to it and during.

The final boss is honestly the only boss in the whole game I would actually put the label of "difficult" on (I don't know the attempt count, but it took about 1 1/2 hours of tries, longer than even any Souls or Sekiro boss has ever taken me). I only used deflect and the uh... other deflect where you charge it, to do damage to her with those and then detonate that damage when it built up with a talisman. I almost never swung at her. Though even without being stubborn like that, that last boss is extremely fun and magnitudes tougher than any other boss in the game.

All that aside, most of the bosses were a good time. Though some of the mini-bosses can suck my nuts, some of those jerks were just unenjoyable/frustrating trash even when they only took 1 try I left their little fights annoyed.

In my opinion 6 tries is not a lot haha, I would say you are doing well. Jiequan took me idk, 10, maybe a few more? I hated those spikey grenades.