This doesn't feels like AAA games , The quality is not the same as Lost Judgement

[⛧Ðiokaza⛧]

Let's discuss , i wanna know what you guys thinking

[Sixtyfivekills]

Obviously, this is an old engine RGG game recreated in UE4.

[kiteless 凧無し]

it's a 9 year old game originally release on ps3 & ps4 back in 2014 (japan only)
it's obviously dated

[Maxz85]

Does not worth 60$ price tag, IMHO
20$ would be nice, just like Yakuza 0 on PC release.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by Maxz85:

Does not worth 60$ price tag, IMHO
20$ would be nice, just like Yakuza 0 on PC release.

yakuza 0 was incredibly well priced when it came to PC

Sega has since become greedy, plus sticking denuvo in their games puts me off buying them.

Yes game 100% does not justify an AAA price tag, it's a wait for sale title. Sega needs to learn

[⛧Ðiokaza⛧]

Originally posted by Maxz85:

Does not worth 60$ price tag, IMHO
20$ would be nice, just like Yakuza 0 on PC release.

agreed , 30$ max for this kind of quality

[Mangaranga]

> yakuza 0 was incredibly well priced when it came to PC

It was also released over a year and a half after the initial western release on PS4, so it can't be compared to this. This is a brand new release that's not hit the west before, released day and date on all platforms worldwide. They've had to port everything from the old engine to UE4, recreate enhanced fidelity assets, re-record dialogue, translate the game to 8 languages, add a glossary so people understand the historical references, QC everything etc. Whilst I'm not a fan of certain things they've changed between this and the Japanese PS4 original, they're well within their right to release this as a full priced game due to the sheer amount of effort and work put into it.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by Mangaranga:

> yakuza 0 was incredibly well priced when it came to PC

It was also released over a year and a half after the initial western release on PS4, so it can't be compared to this. This is a brand new release that's not hit the west before, released day and date on all platforms worldwide. They've had to port everything from the old engine to UE4, recreate enhanced fidelity assets, re-record dialogue, translate the game to 8 languages, add a glossary so people understand the historical references, QC everything etc. Whilst I'm not a fan of certain things they've changed between this and the Japanese PS4 original, they're well within their right to release this as a full priced game due to the sheer amount of effort and work put into it.

sorry, not buying that.
localisation was cheap, they didn't do an English dub. Translation work really isn't that expensive, I should know.

cut and pasting old game into new engine really isn't all that hard, especially when the game is dated to begin with

Doesn't justify the cost. They wasted money bringing in pointless e celebs that nobody gives a F about.

Lost judgment was released at full price on steam despite being on console for over a year at the time. Just Sega greed, nothing more

[Romo]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Originally posted by Mangaranga:

> yakuza 0 was incredibly well priced when it came to PC

It was also released over a year and a half after the initial western release on PS4, so it can't be compared to this. This is a brand new release that's not hit the west before, released day and date on all platforms worldwide. They've had to port everything from the old engine to UE4, recreate enhanced fidelity assets, re-record dialogue, translate the game to 8 languages, add a glossary so people understand the historical references, QC everything etc. Whilst I'm not a fan of certain things they've changed between this and the Japanese PS4 original, they're well within their right to release this as a full priced game due to the sheer amount of effort and work put into it.

sorry, not buying that.
localisation was cheap, they didn't do an English dub. Translation work really isn't that expensive, I should know.

cut and pasting old game into new engine really isn't all that hard, especially when the game is dated to begin with

Doesn't justify the cost. They wasted money bringing in pointless e celebs that nobody gives a F about.

Lost judgment was released at full price on steam despite being on console for over a year at the time. Just Sega greed, nothing more

English dub literally would've made 0 sense and they even stated that they didn't want to lose things in translation. Its an Ancient Japan game. Hell, modern Yakuza games besides Judgement and LAD dont have dubs, expecting one for this makes no sense.

The cut and pasting argument really makes you look like you have no idea how video games work.

People love the 0 trilogy captains. People love them in this game. You can be out of touch with reality but that doesnt mean the rest are lmfao.

LJ point valid tho.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by Romo:

English dub literally would've made 0 sense and they even stated that they didn't want to lose things in translation. Its an Ancient Japan game. Hell, modern Yakuza games besides Judgement and LAD dont have dubs, expecting one for this makes no sense.

The cut and pasting argument really makes you look like you have no idea how video games work.

People love the 0 trilogy captains. People love them in this game. You can be out of touch with reality but that doesnt mean the rest are lmfao.

LJ point valid tho.

The only reason there is no english dub is because they didn't think it would be worth the cost being that this is an old game, that's it, don't buy into their excuses. There is nothing in the dialogue that wouldn't translate into an English script. The dialogue is spoken in modern Japanese, it's not even old fashioned, a few dialects here and there but this is no old samurai flick

Putting an old game into a much more modern, powerful engine is not hard. UE is literally build with this in mind, why do you think they chose it, it was easier than taking the old ps3 engine that this game originally ran on and putting it into the dragon engine

[R.O.K. SEOULDIER]

yeh this game definitely isnt worth 60-70 bucks. more like 39.99. game is fun but outdated as hell. the footsteps sounds just destroy immersion.walking on wood or sand and its the same hitting plastic clunky sound.
man this game should have been on the dragon engine.

[joyjayasinghe]

As a hardcore Yakuza fanboy, I hate to admit it, but you're right. There are some Quality of life features that are sorely missing in this game. It seems like they spent way more on the marketing than this game and the other fanboys don't want to admit it...

[Naokaji]

Should it have been a full price release? Nah, but lets not forget two things:

Sega games are pretty frequently discounted on Steam, patience may well save you quite a bit of money,

Plenty of Sega games are available on game pass, so could just wait for it to pop up there.

[Roiiiiiii]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Putting an old game into a much more modern, powerful engine is not hard. UE is literally build with this in mind, why do you think they chose it, it was easier than taking the old ps3 engine that this game originally ran on and putting it into the dragon engine

Modern day game engines function very similarly, which means putting this old game from PS3 engine to Dragon Engine or UE4 require not much different amount of work. UE is not magic. You still have to redo most features in UE4 since its structure is different from that PS3 engine.
I'd say a dragon engine port might be easier to make since a lot of features are already done in Judgment and Lost Judgment.
If you ever tried using UE4 you'd know this UE4 port is worth the price. Their in-house Dragon Engine can't handle lighting, shadow and render as well as UE4. J&LJ's shadow is ugly asf.

[Jade]

Originally posted by Maxz85:

Does not worth 60$ price tag, IMHO
20$ would be nice, just like Yakuza 0 on PC release.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game/113549
Judging by how many hours of enjoyment you get out of the game I'd say $60 is worth it, hell I'd pay $60 for Yakuza 0 today. Not sure why so many people are surprised about it not feeling like the newer games, I wish SEGA did a bit of a better job of telling everyone that this is essentially a rerelease with some changes.

[El Padrino]

Originally posted by Zasrakh:

Originally posted by Romo:

English dub literally would've made 0 sense and they even stated that they didn't want to lose things in translation.

Yeah then why translate it into english at all? Just keep it as it is. Definitely don't want to lose things in translation. I'd rather listen than read. Yakuza: LAD dub was great and this is simply no effort, with an bad excuse.

this is just a bad take. Anyone that plays these games with or wanting an English Dub is just wrong. Sorry. (I don't watch anime but same applies to most animes also.)