Like a Dragon: Ishin!

Like a Dragon: Ishin!

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yayokay Feb 18, 2023 @ 11:14am
Unreal Engine is horrible
Pls switch back to the "old" dragon engine.
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Misha Feb 19, 2023 @ 12:15pm 
agreed we've been spoiled by the dragon engine especially if you played lost judgement
+1
pkfast Feb 19, 2023 @ 7:42pm 
is the shuttering fixable by patches?
Abram Volkov Feb 19, 2023 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by M-50 Super Sherman:
Pls switch back to the "old" dragon engine.
I'll respect your opinion when you actually own the game :lmaosubwaydog:
CPU Level 2 Feb 19, 2023 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Abram Volkov:
Originally posted by M-50 Super Sherman:
Pls switch back to the "old" dragon engine.
I'll respect your opinion when you actually own the game :lmaosubwaydog:

Pls switch back to the "old" dragon engine.
yayokay Feb 19, 2023 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Abram Volkov:
Originally posted by M-50 Super Sherman:
Pls switch back to the "old" dragon engine.
I'll respect your opinion when you actually own the game :lmaosubwaydog:

I play on the PS5 and it's horrible.
Romo Feb 19, 2023 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by M-50 Super Sherman:
Originally posted by Abram Volkov:
I'll respect your opinion when you actually own the game :lmaosubwaydog:

I play on the PS5 and it's horrible.
me when I lie
Jade Feb 20, 2023 @ 12:25am 
I've only played the demo but I don't really feel a huge difference from UE4 to the Y0 era Dragon Engine, I've heard of people having stuttering issues but from what I can tell its tied to DX12 shader compilation and not UE4 its self.
his1roguenation Feb 20, 2023 @ 12:28am 
What, you don't like the new shadows which make almost every scene far too dark?
Lewis Feb 20, 2023 @ 2:50am 
Every single release with Unreal Engine lately has been a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

- LAD Ishin
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Callisto Protocol
- Atomic Heart (leaked build shows the exact same issues)

I didn't expect RGG to release a game like this though :(

I guess big fishes just want to save a couple dimes by using this aberration of an engine and don't care about their product, just about day 1 sales from the people they were able to fool with their marketing teams.

This is PC gaming in 2023...
kiteless 凧無し Feb 20, 2023 @ 3:10am 
It’s sad that people are spending a small fortune on overpriced nvidia gpus just to render their games a stutter fest thanks to poorly optimised pc ports running garbage engines like UE4 and denuvo

This is a great advertisement for console gaming right now, go out and buy a ps5 for a fraction of the price of an expensive gaming pc and get something that at least works. Fun fact is the ps5 is more powerful than the average steam users pc according to the hardware survey so a console right now would be seen as a hardware upgrade to many, this is what tone deaf companies like nvidia are currently competing with

I hope nvidia’s stock sinks, charging 1k for a mid tier card like a 4070ti is a sick joke
Last edited by kiteless 凧無し; Feb 20, 2023 @ 3:19am
Doctor Hades Feb 20, 2023 @ 4:39am 
I hated the demo but remembered how much I enjoyed the other RGG games (Yakuza 0-2 and Judgment / Lost Judgment, at first on PS4/PS5 and then later on PC) so decided to take a punt on the full game and bought it over the weekend.

Well, I am definitely not disappointed by the game itself - the story and characters are every bit as compelling and entertaining as the other games - but visually the game looks very dated and, yes, there is the usual Unreal Engine 4 traversal stuttering, which has become so prevalent of late. The irony is that I also decided to play Judgment and Lost Judgment alongside this game too, having bought them for PC in the last Steam sale but hadn't really played yet, and they are awesome, with great graphics (especially Lost Judgment) but also performance with absolutely no stuttering whatsoever.

This just highlights to me how superior custom engines are for games and how flawed Unreal Engine 4 really is. It is a great engine that allows developers to make some stunning looking games but it is not a good fit for large open-world games. I really do wish that the Ishin! remake had used the same engine as Lost Judgment instead of UE4. I've seen footage of the PS3/PS4 original and much prefer that game's more exaggerated colour palette. In comparions, the remake looks really bland in terms of lighting and flat-looking outside of the excellent cutscenes (albeit capped at 30 fps...).
⛧Ðiokaza⛧ Feb 20, 2023 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:
It’s sad that people are spending a small fortune on overpriced nvidia gpus just to render their games a stutter fest thanks to poorly optimised pc ports running garbage engines like UE4 and denuvo

This is a great advertisement for console gaming right now, go out and buy a ps5 for a fraction of the price of an expensive gaming pc and get something that at least works. Fun fact is the ps5 is more powerful than the average steam users pc according to the hardware survey so a console right now would be seen as a hardware upgrade to many, this is what tone deaf companies like nvidia are currently competing with

I hope nvidia’s stock sinks, charging 1k for a mid tier card like a 4070ti is a sick joke
i Bought my RTX 4070 ti Msi trio for 1199 usd, While i get about 290-300fps average on Ishin playin on ultra 1440p , i kinda agreed that nvidia is overchargin us.
L3ros Feb 20, 2023 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:
It’s sad that people are spending a small fortune on overpriced nvidia gpus just to render their games a stutter fest thanks to poorly optimised pc ports running garbage engines like UE4 and denuvo

This is a great advertisement for console gaming right now, go out and buy a ps5 for a fraction of the price of an expensive gaming pc and get something that at least works. Fun fact is the ps5 is more powerful than the average steam users pc according to the hardware survey so a console right now would be seen as a hardware upgrade to many, this is what tone deaf companies like nvidia are currently competing with

I hope nvidia’s stock sinks, charging 1k for a mid tier card like a 4070ti is a sick joke
Have you seen the stutterfest that is Elden Ring on the PS5? That is with strongly toned down graphics in "performance mode".
Just finished infinite wealth and tried to start this one, the engine switch is horrible, UE feels clunky as hell compared to their inhouse dragon engine. Deleted the game a little over an hour.
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