be straight with me: these or roms?

[♡]

like im seeing mixed things

[wwm0nkey]

For me personally the ease of use for the download chips and online has me with this

but also I only own BN3 for GBA (was dumb as a kid) and have no legit way of dumping the ROMs and I’ll usually only download something I don’t own if I can’t buy it officially. Mega Man usually never sells crazy and Capcom looks at sales to continue series, so if you want to support it, keep that in mind

[♡]

Originally posted by wwm0nkey:

For me personally the ease of use for the download chips and online has me with this

but also I only own BN3 for GBA (was dumb as a kid) and have no legit way of dumping the ROMs and I’ll usually only download something I don’t own if I can’t buy it officially. Mega Man usually never sells crazy and Capcom looks at sales to continue series, so if you want to support it, keep that in mind

I have been on steam for better part of my life and this is THE FIRST sane, balanced, encouraring comment I have seen

[funewchie]

Additionally, this has some content restored that the original English version never had, like the Boktai sidequests in one of the games.
It also includes the powerful e-Reader chips that were never released.

Lastly, this restored some of the Japanese effects that got removed or altered in the English version, like the Jacking In and Navi Customizer effects in BN3.

And of course, it has online trading and PvP.

[wwm0nkey]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by wwm0nkey:

For me personally the ease of use for the download chips and online has me with this

but also I only own BN3 for GBA (was dumb as a kid) and have no legit way of dumping the ROMs and I’ll usually only download something I don’t own if I can’t buy it officially. Mega Man usually never sells crazy and Capcom looks at sales to continue series, so if you want to support it, keep that in mind

I have been on steam for better part of my life and this is THE FIRST sane, balanced, encouraring comment I have seen

I try lol

[JC]

Originally posted by wwm0nkey:

I try lol

It's how it should be. I'm all for downloading roms and using emulators when the product is not for sale anymore, or it's otherwise hard to obtain.

This is a legal option that has all the games and some extras. Pricing aside, this is what everyone should be getting, but I keep seeing more people encouraging piracy instead.

[Outcast]

if you are a casual player or a completionist who has the spare funds to buy these games and are a fan of the series from way back, or if you are new to MM and have the funds and want to enjoy a clean playthrough with no struggle of hunting the web for a good rom and emulator then I say buy these titles here on Steam.

If you don't care about achievements or 100% completion, if you just want to speed through the games or are a speedrunner, then stick with the emulators.

I'm a sheep who has bought these titles every time they've come up for purchase (GBA, Wii U, and now Steam). I love these titles and want to play them in a updated version (the current release) so here I am $60 poorer.

[JC]

Gonna be clear about my stance here.

Do I think 60 bucks is okay for this collection? Hell no. It's price gouging. But it is from official channels and the money supports the developers/Capcom, and I'm for it for that alone, but the added benefit is that it also gauges the desire to see more MM. There will be sales I'm sure.

Am I okay with Denuvo? No. But then I haven't noticed it be an issue in this collection. I don't really know about all the stuff about the CEO or whatever. Don't care, either. It'll probably get removed down the line.

Do I think ROMs and Emulation is okay? Absolutely. They're an important part of games preservation and I'd be a hypocrite if I kept spouting "this isn't okay, this is priacy" when I do the same thing. The difference however, is when you do it just to do it, or when you do it because you already own the game. I own Breath of the Wild. I also have it emulated on my Steam Deck, and I enjoy mods on my PC. I ripped my own copy of the game.

In the event you can't rip your own copy, but you own the game, absolutely free game to just download a ROM.

If the game is no longer being sold anywhere but 3rd party sites where the money doesn't support devs, I say download what you like. Sail them seas.

But I kinda draw the line in the sand when you pop into a community forum meant for discussing the game and ♥♥♥♥ on it when you didn't buy it or you have some post nut clarity on the purchase and advocate piracy for a product that is now readily available.

But that's just me.

[wwm0nkey]

Originally posted by JC:

Gonna be clear about my stance here.

Do I think 60 bucks is okay for this collection? Hell no. It's price gouging. But it is from official channels and the money supports the developers/Capcom, and I'm for it for that alone, but the added benefit is that it also gauges the desire to see more MM. There will be sales I'm sure.

Am I okay with Denuvo? No. But then I haven't noticed it be an issue in this collection. I don't really know about all the stuff about the CEO or whatever. Don't care, either. It'll probably get removed down the line.

Do I think ROMs and Emulation is okay? Absolutely. They're an important part of games preservation and I'd be a hypocrite if I kept spouting "this isn't okay, this is priacy" when I do the same thing. The difference however, is when you do it just to do it, or when you do it because you already own the game. I own Breath of the Wild. I also have it emulated on my Steam Deck, and I enjoy mods on my PC. I ripped my own copy of the game.

In the event you can't rip your own copy, but you own the game, absolutely free game to just download a ROM.

If the game is no longer being sold anywhere but 3rd party sites where the money doesn't support devs, I say download what you like. Sail them seas.

But I kinda draw the line in the sand when you pop into a community forum meant for discussing the game and ♥♥♥♥ on it when you didn't buy it or you have some post nut clarity on the purchase and advocate piracy for a product that is now readily available.

But that's just me.

Pretty much my stance, if you can still get the game from a store front on a device you own? Just buy it. You own the game and can dump? dump it. Can't dump it? I'll let the download slide lol

[Papa Shekels]

It's really just about convenience. You get all the battle network games, legally and from an official channel, for a decent price, all accessible in one place with some little bonuses. They give you achievements, online play, an art viewer, soundtrack, etc. You can play it on a steam deck if you have it too. None of that is really worth $60 by itself but it's nice to have. The games themselves are definitely worth the price, just playing through 6 of them and ignoring the 4 alt versions you get more play time than most other $60 titles. Or compared to the physical carts, you would be paying well over $100 to even get them in the lowest quality possible that still works.

This way you get it easy and legally. Whether this is considered cheap is subjective, but it's definitely cheaper than any other legal means of getting the games. Getting it cheaper will be more complicated and, obviously, not legal. So it's up to you how much you value all these factors

[.]

If you care about single player only, then the latter. If you care about playing online, then the former.

[Pepperoni Secret]

These are ports that pull assets from the roms, but it is not emulated

[koinzell]

yes, roms.

however what makes this better is that its a re-translation of the "JP roms" which include almost all of the censored/removed contents from the OG NA GBA releases (its still missing the cross-over online BN6 contents).

under:"Version differences", here's all the changes from the OG GBA releases & this version.
https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Battle_Network_Legacy_Collection

[Siracco]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

like im seeing mixed things

Depends.
Do you like denuvo or are okay with it? If yes 1 point for the collection. If no 1 point for the other
Do wanna support the company EVEN if the collection is over priced? If yes 1 point for the collection. If no 1 point for the other
Do you care about a possibility for BN7? If yes 1 point for the collection. If no 1 point for the other.
Do you care about the chip gate function of the 4-6 games? If no 1 point for the collection. If yes 1 point for the other
Both have online multiplayer, both gives you access to missing content. The rom side has BN 5 DS and BN 1 Operation Star Force vastly superior version of 1.
The best option IMO wait for denuvo to be removed and for it to go on a hefty sale if you aren't in a rush 40 or less

[Doc]

The ROMs are contained within the collection, all 20 of them, despite it actually being a real port. I'd buy and use both if you don't already have a nearly full collection.

[Crise]

Originally posted by Doc:

The ROMs are contained within the collection, all 20 of them, despite it actually being a real port. I'd buy and use both if you don't already have a nearly full collection.

What I heard. and which seems at least plausible given developer statements, is that the game uses the roms as data files, so it extracts e.g. the English script from the English rom and applies to to the Japanese version of the games (this why all most the translations are preserved in their original glorious state, the only really new translations seems to be the previously cut content from BN6).

It will be interesting to hear how much if any of the actual gameplay logic is pulled from the roms once modders sink their teeth into this, given that some of the old JP version glitches work, but not all of them it is hard to say for sure.