Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection Vol. 1

Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection Vol. 1

If you have a Switch, consider buying it there
The 2-pack on the Japanese store is 5,990円 ($45 USD) and no Denuvo.
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Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
The amount of manchildren crying about Denuvo as if it's going to impact the performance of GAMEBOY GAMES is absurd, these people must live such pathetic and miserable lives.
That's quite the consoomer take.

Denuvo is essentially spyware in all but name. It punishes paying customers in an effort to combat pirates, which ironically encourages more piracy.
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
That's quite the consoomer take.
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By using the word 'consoomer' you're pretty much proving their point.
Цитата допису Melodia:
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
That's quite the consoomer take.
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By using the word 'consoomer' you're pretty much proving their point.
You do you man, it's your money.
i went steam ones for the emotes from the point shop ;p
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
The amount of manchildren crying about Denuvo as if it's going to impact the performance of GAMEBOY GAMES is absurd, these people must live such pathetic and miserable lives.
That's quite the consoomer take.

Denuvo is essentially spyware in all but name. It punishes paying customers in an effort to combat pirates, which ironically encourages more piracy.

Virtually nobody who wasn't going to pirate the game before decided they want to pirate it because Denuvo was included that's the same delusional argument all the Denuvo criers always claim and there's zero evidence to back it. However what Denuvo absolutely has done is prevent a lot of people from pirating the game and forced some of them to buy it. Even after Denuvo gets cracked within a few weeks or however long it takes, a lot of people will still be forced to buy it because the biggest reason to even buy this game is for the online multiplayer (and usually there's no getting around anti-piracy controls on that front unless the Devs are super lazy). If Denuvo was a net negative on sales there wouldn't be so many developers using it. The only people who cry about it are a bunch of man-children who act like the impact on performance is anything substantial (at least in the case of less intensive games like these). Also I find it hilarious how all these garbage people who pirate games try to act like they're doing it for moral reasons when it's literally the exact opposite, it's just pathetic. The only excuse for pirating is if you're a kid with no way of purchasing games, that's it.
Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
However what Denuvo absolutely has done is prevent a lot of people from pirating the game and forced some of them to buy it.
Not that you don't have some valid points there (I personally never had any issues with Denuvo), but I do think this one claim may not be accurate?
Автор останньої редакції: NotAfan; 17 квіт. 2023 о 13:31
Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
Virtually nobody who wasn't going to pirate the game before decided they want to pirate it because Denuvo was included that's the same delusional argument all the Denuvo criers always claim and there's zero evidence to back it.
While you're correct, this isn't a belief actually anyone held. Nor was it what I said.

What I was implying wasn't people who were already gonna pirate games, but towards the people that were on the fence of buying. If there was a superior version that doesn't have spyware and for the lower cost of free, some people are going to jump on the ship.

Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
However what Denuvo absolutely has done is prevent a lot of people from pirating the game and forced some of them to buy it. Even after Denuvo gets cracked within a few weeks or however long it takes, a lot of people will still be forced to buy it because the biggest reason to even buy this game is for the online multiplayer (and usually there's no getting around anti-piracy controls on that front unless the Devs are super lazy).

I want some evidence on this claim, because I frankly find it extremely hard to believe.

Not to mention we're so saturated in entertainment these days that you always have the option of playing something else.

Have you seen the online communities of RTS and Fighting games? Multiplayer doesn't draw in as big of a crowd compared to single player.

Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
If Denuvo was a net negative on sales there wouldn't be so many developers using it. The only people who cry about it are a bunch of man-children who act like the impact on performance is anything substantial (at least in the case of less intensive games like these).

Developers use it for the reasons I've stated, they have the boomer belief that every pirated copy is a lost sale. Most corpos are run by out of touch boomers that don't even like games and don't know why people like them.

Performance is one thing, Denuvo is spyware.

Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
Also I find it hilarious how all these garbage people who pirate games try to act like they're doing it for moral reasons when it's literally the exact opposite, it's just pathetic. The only excuse for pirating is if you're a kid with no way of purchasing games, that's it.
To quote Gabe, "A pirate is just a dissatisfied customer".

Also, it's ironic how you're giving ♥♥♥♥ at pirates and then open a backdoor for one exact solid excuse for pirating. Not that I disagree with you, but I find it funny.

Also, piracy helps preserve data in case they get lost to time. In fact, this game would fall into that category.
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
Also, piracy helps preserve data in case they get lost to time. In fact, this game would fall into that category.
I just want to chime in real quick and say that I agree with this. While it would be naive to believe pirating's main goal is game preservation, it certainly is byproduct of it. Just look at Nintendo closing 3DS/Wii U's eshop: if not for piracy, there would quite literally be no way to play any of the many digital only releases.
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
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My guy are you even playing the game or just sitting in the discussion board stirring things up? Literally every thread with you...
Цитата допису Sev:
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
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My guy are you even playing the game or just sitting in the discussion board stirring things up? Literally every thread with you...

Noticed that as well lol.
Kinda funny though :)
Цитата допису Gias:
Цитата допису Crashed:
If you do get frame drops in this Collection something would be very wrong. That said I have a 60fps monitor and there does seem to be a bit of a vsync issue in borderless mode, but fullscreen runs flawlessly. 13900K here too, on Windows 11 Insider Preview Canary. My only guess is that window mode isn't applying Flip Model for minimum latency and proper vsync.

yeah windows 11's windowed optimizations doesn't work with all d3d11 games. it doesn't promote final fantasy 10 from bitblt to flip model, and basically same thing with megaman battle network. it's one of the first things i verified with intel's presentmon and other tools. this game uses bitblt presentation in borderless... and windows 11 does not promote it to flip model presentation unfortunately.

on the other hand, special k is actually able to promote this game's borderless mode to flip model. though there are 3 settings in sk's config that may need to be disabled to avoid a dimming issue with this game.

also, this megaman game forces vsync on by default in all display modes.

in fullscreen, people can turn vsync off with vsync set to off from the driver or with fast sync (and probably enhanced sync too). in windowed/borderless mode, special k can be used to promote the game to flip model as well as to turn off the game's vsync. special k's latent sync also worked well with this game in my testing.

actually I take that back. well kinda, i got some info from someone from Microsoft this morning and turns out that Windows 11's windowed optimizations does work with this Megaman game but wasn't working by default. windows 11's windowed optimizations feature for flip model in DXGI only applies to "games," and the list of games is maintained in a separate component, and yeah apparently the game's .exe was not being categorized as a game...

fortunately, users can manually fix this for Megaman Battle Network. I didn't know we could do this until today... or forgot if I did... but anyway, to get windowed optimizations/flip model working with this game, try bringing up windows's Gamebar (Win+G) while the Megaman game is running, then click on the Settings gear icon, then look for the "Remember this is a game" checkbox under General and check/enable that option. then close the game and relaunch it. i did that and, next time i relaunched the game, i did in fact notice the game now is using flip model in borderless (without needing special k for this now). you can also verify it with intel's presentmon etc

btw this doesn't work for Final Fantasy X (the other case i mentioned earlier where windows 11's windowed optimizations doesn't flip the game). the "remember this is a game" option actually doesn't come up in GameBar for FFX, and I was told that option doesn't show up for FFX because it is already in the games list. the reason Windowed Optimizations doesn't work in FFX turns out is basically because Microsoft has "fullscreen optimizations" disabled for this game in an internal compatibility setting section they have, and they also don't turn on Windowed optimizations in that case.

Unfortunately they didn't have insight into why fullscreen optimizations is disabled for FFX, and they didn't know of a workaround to enable it at this time. They told me they'd ask around and reply back if they find out anything more on this one. Interesting stuff though imo at least (and btw at least Special K can still promote FFX to flip model, so there's that -- but yeah would be ideal if windows 11's windowed optimizations option also worked for FFX). ah well, windows 11's windowed optimizations can work with Megaman Battle Network after all :)
Автор останньої редакції: Gias; 17 квіт. 2023 о 14:54
Цитата допису Kyotosomo:
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
That's quite the consoomer take.

Denuvo is essentially spyware in all but name. It punishes paying customers in an effort to combat pirates, which ironically encourages more piracy.

Virtually nobody who wasn't going to pirate the game before decided they want to pirate it because Denuvo was included that's the same delusional argument all the Denuvo criers always claim and there's zero evidence to back it. However what Denuvo absolutely has done is prevent a lot of people from pirating the game and forced some of them to buy it. Even after Denuvo gets cracked within a few weeks or however long it takes, a lot of people will still be forced to buy it because the biggest reason to even buy this game is for the online multiplayer (and usually there's no getting around anti-piracy controls on that front unless the Devs are super lazy). If Denuvo was a net negative on sales there wouldn't be so many developers using it. The only people who cry about it are a bunch of man-children who act like the impact on performance is anything substantial (at least in the case of less intensive games like these). Also I find it hilarious how all these garbage people who pirate games try to act like they're doing it for moral reasons when it's literally the exact opposite, it's just pathetic. The only excuse for pirating is if you're a kid with no way of purchasing games, that's it.

Bro denuvo sucks ...

You get 0 benefit from it and people who pirate games usually end up with the better version than the people who bought the damn game ...
Цитата допису Sev:
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
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My guy are you even playing the game or just sitting in the discussion board stirring things up? Literally every thread with you...
Played this game several dozens of times over the last 2 decades man.
Цитата допису Sev:
Цитата допису Chaos 混沌 カオス:
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My guy are you even playing the game or just sitting in the discussion board stirring things up? Literally every thread with you...
I mean I own the games and agree with him. I wouldn't have bought them if I had known I just picked them up when I heard about them.
I don't care for piracy personally but I know quite a few people who have chosen that because screw denuevo. It's not impossible to break just difficult. You yuzu can or ryujinx multiplat games after legally purchasing them of course
ok but, don't you need to pay the nintendo online sub for switch? no sub on PC
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