This vs Sonic PS2 collection?

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

PS2 collection runs great, had all Sonic 2D games ever made up to that point, and I still have it. Also has comics, drawings and concepts. Should I bother with this version at all?

[Tanoomba]

Depends. If you're satisfied with that version, then you're set.

If you get Origins Plus, you get:
- The convenience of playing on Steam
- Native 4K support
- Native widescreen in all games (which improves the games quite a bit)
- Replacing traditional lives with Star Coins, which can be used to re-try bonus stages (a welcome feature) or purchase bonus content in the gallery (including arranged and orchestral versions of Sonic music, concept art dating back to before the first Sonic, illustrations and promotional art, box and manual scans, and more)
- "Mirror Mode" to play through the games in reverse.
- A story mode that links all of the games together, including new animated intros for each game
- Being able to play as Sonic, Tails, Knuckles or Amy in any of the games
- 12 GameGear Sonic games
- "Mission" mode which gives you specific tasks to accomplish in modified areas from all the games
- Reasonable achievements

On the downside, you miss out on some of the original music tracks for Sonic 3 & Knuckles (including, heartbreakingly, the Ice Cap Zone tracks). And while there is a "Classic" mode that retains the old school lives system and original aspect ratio, it's still running off the new engine and doesn't recreate the originals exactly. The sound is a little off in the GameGear games, too.

Personally, I think Origins is the best way to play these games despite the flaws, but it very much depends on your personal preferences.

[AmethystViper]

You're better off sticking to the PS2 collection in my opinion. For one, Sonic Origins Plus does not include the original Genesis games and contrary to what the "Classic" mode wants unsuspecting players to believe, it's really just the same as the Anniversary/Story Modes but with the aspect-ratio reduced to 4:3 and the lives system re-enabled. The physics, gameplay elements, visuals, and even the audio are the same as they are in Sonic Origins in the "Classic" mode as they were from the mobile version from years. Speaking of the mobile ports, some of the cool features those ports have like the save system that was added in Sonic 1's and 2's mobile ports are gone for whatever reason in Origin and Super forums now require a cheat code when there were an unlockable in the mobile ports since Taxman and Stealth had the ability to properly add in the seventh Chaos Emerald in those games. The cool menus in 1's and 2's mobile ports in Origins as well as the Character Select have been gutted for a soulless and sloppy interface.

The 12 Game Gear games included in Plus are inferior ports of other games from the Genesis and Master System (e.g. 8-bit Sonic 1 and 2, Sonic Spinball, Mean Bean Machine which was really Puyo Puyo in Japan) with reduced screen visibility thanks to the Game Gear's small screen compared to the Master System or Genesis, not to mention half of the other Game Gear games are mediocre at best or god-awful at worst so I wouldn't consider it a worthwhile inclusion in Origins anyways and only exist in that DLC just to pad out the number of games in a sad way to justify its $40 MSRP or the $10 upgrade if you were wise enough to not buy Sonic Origins at launch.

The "Story" Mode is literally just Anniversary Mode all duct taped together when really they could have made that the "Easy" mode for those mainly want to experience the story similar to what Mega Man Zero Collection on the DS did where they give you the originals but also an easier and continuously linked experience of the four game, which at least had a consistent style unlike in Sonic 1, 2, 3, and CD which have some visual differences between each games that stand out like a sore thumb as what is supposed to be this new take on the classic game's story narrative.

The only good thing I can say is the Retry system for Special Stages for those struggling with them; much of Sonic Origin's extra content either feels like filler at best nd pointless additions at worst when some of the stuff can easily be found on YouTube and don't come of with some of the more interesting stuff that other compilations had. That and unlike Sonic Jam on the Saturn, there's no way to play Sonic & Knuckles, Blue Spheres, or Sonic 3 standalone, which was something the old Windows 95 PC port had despite the downgrade in music, though I can forgive that collection's replacement of the music since part of its issues stemmed from Windows bad soundfont where there is no excuse for Sonic Origins to have not worse sound quality for these games but also badly remixed the prototype music when they could have just used the prototype music recorded off an actual Genesis hardware (or even the YM2612 sound chip) as-is.

[slider86]

Stick to the PS2 release. It's better value for money.

[cute girl farts]

Mega Collection is always a sure win. Better ports, better menus, better vibes.

[Grim]

Mega Collection plus and Gems collection are better in a lot of ways. But to play legit will cost a lot more.

There are advantages to the Origins collection, including that it's more accessible and cheaper (again, if you're playing legit)

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Grim:

Mega Collection plus and Gems collection are better in a lot of ways. But to play legit will cost a lot more.

There are advantages to the Origins collection, including that it's more accessible and cheaper (again, if you're playing legit)

I'm still seeing PS2 copies of said collections for around a quarter of the price of this collection. Also, the Sonic PC Collection[sonic.fandom.com] includes Mega Collection Plus which can also be found for very cheap online.

[Opa Balls]

Those collections are just ugly looking emulation idk how people play them

[slider86]

Originally posted by Mr. Zurkon:

Those collections are just ugly looking emulation idk how people play them

Well these are broken and you get less for your money so easy choice for most.

[Cosmic Eternity]

Originally posted by slider86:

Originally posted by Mr. Zurkon:

Those collections are just ugly looking emulation idk how people play them

Well these are broken and you get less for your money so easy choice for most.

To be fair, it's not hard to grab a thing or two to patch Origins.
With the Origins Ultrafix mod, the games practically become on-par or better than their emulated counterparts. I would know; I'm one of the developers on the project, and we strive to make the collection as close to their original games while also adding cool and new things that could've been in the game (without straying into Forever or Absolute territory).

[Cosmic Eternity]

One such thing is actually Elemental Shields in Sonic CD as a secret, which function identically to their Sonic 3 counterparts: https://i.imgur.com/3nsVF4D.gif

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by slider86:

Originally posted by Mr. Zurkon:

Those collections are just ugly looking emulation idk how people play them

Well these are broken and you get less for your money so easy choice for most.

The only major glitch I ran into with any of the games in this collection is the electric shield in Sonic 3 & Knuckles turning the entire screen white when you fall in the water, a glitch that has been reported since launch and still hasn't been fixed to this day.

[Cosmic Eternity]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by slider86:

Well these are broken and you get less for your money so easy choice for most.

The only major glitch I ran into with any of the games in this collection is the electric shield in Sonic 3 & Knuckles turning the entire screen white when you fall in the water, a glitch that has been reported since launch and still hasn't been fixed to this day.

oh i known about this one- I actually fixed that myself LMAO