Comparison in quality from Sonic 3 AIR and Origins

[Raz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Okflm-nN4Q

Sorry for the crap game play , just showing Quality Difference Sonic 3 AIR is way Better, minus the true wide screen

[mikey_205]

You're being deceitful here. You're using a Sonic Mania mod which is changing the look and feel from Sonic 3 AIR. You're also using revamped soundtrack mod as well. These are not representative of Sonic 3 AIR but rather modded preferences (I wouldn't want Sonic Mania sprite in this game).

You'd be much better off playing vanilla Sonic 3 AIR and doing a fair comparison as opposed to this which is very intentionally misleading. The pixel blur and a side by side audio would honestly be enough.

[Timur2345]

Try to compare Sonic 3 Complete next time, ok?

[mikey_205]

Sonic 3 Complete vs Classic might be a good comparison.

[Raz]

Originally posted by mikey_205:

You're being deceitful here. You're using a Sonic Mania mod which is changing the look and feel from Sonic 3 AIR. You're also using revamped soundtrack mod as well. These are not representative of Sonic 3 AIR but rather modded preferences (I wouldn't want Sonic Mania sprite in this game).

You'd be much better off playing vanilla Sonic 3 AIR and doing a fair comparison as opposed to this which is very intentionally misleading. The pixel blur and a side by side audio would honestly be enough.

not doing anything deceitful , i'm talking about the crisp quality of the game so like the background and origins has this blur effect not seen in sonic 3 air , i was playing it myself and i was like this is far more crisp , surly they could have gone above and made sonic orgins more crisp

[Mylliah]

Originally posted by Raz:

Originally posted by mikey_205:

You're being deceitful here. You're using a Sonic Mania mod which is changing the look and feel from Sonic 3 AIR. You're also using revamped soundtrack mod as well. These are not representative of Sonic 3 AIR but rather modded preferences (I wouldn't want Sonic Mania sprite in this game).

You'd be much better off playing vanilla Sonic 3 AIR and doing a fair comparison as opposed to this which is very intentionally misleading. The pixel blur and a side by side audio would honestly be enough.

not doing anything deceitful , i'm talking about the crisp quality of the game so like the background and origins has this blur effect not seen in sonic 3 air , i was playing it myself and i was like this is far more crisp , surly they could have gone above and made sonic orgins more crisp

Actually, I like the blur they used in Sonic Origins, so they should make it optional for people who don't like it.

Also if devs from Sonic 3 A.I.R. read me, please consider adding Sonic Origins soft blur (so with AA off) to A.I.R. please!

[Abaw245]

Originally posted by Mylliah:

Originally posted by Raz:

not doing anything deceitful , i'm talking about the crisp quality of the game so like the background and origins has this blur effect not seen in sonic 3 air , i was playing it myself and i was like this is far more crisp , surly they could have gone above and made sonic orgins more crisp

Actually, I like the blur they used in Sonic Origins, so they should make it optional for people who don't like it.

Also if devs from Sonic 3 A.I.R. read me, please consider adding Sonic Origins soft blur (so with AA off) to A.I.R. please!

While i may understand people who like the soft blur, i don't understand who can like the blurriness that AA gives

[Owlet VII]

Originally posted by Mylliah:

Also if devs from Sonic 3 A.I.R. read me, please consider adding Sonic Origins soft blur (so with AA off) to A.I.R. please!

AIR already has optional soft blur filtering. There's no AA in AIR, because it's a 2D game.

Originally posted by Abaw245:

While i may understand people who like the soft blur, i don't understand who can like the blurriness that AA gives

Anti-aliasing greatly improves image quality in 3D games, as long as the quality methods are used. It does nothing for 2D.

[Raz]

yea i hate the blue effect I turned it off in Sonic origins and its still blur compered to sonic 3 Air I just like a nice crisp image

[Tsuki Zero]

Originally posted by mottim:

Try to compare Sonic 3 Complete next time, ok?

But Sonic 3 Complete is a romhack, Sonic 3 A.I.R. is basically a frontend to play unmodified Sonic 3 & Knuckles with optional modifications and widescreen

[Eaarame]

Originally posted by Tsuki Zero:

Originally posted by mottim:

Try to compare Sonic 3 Complete next time, ok?

But Sonic 3 Complete is a romhack, Sonic 3 A.I.R. is basically a frontend to play unmodified Sonic 3 & Knuckles with optional modifications and widescreen

I have played sonic 3 complete and sonic 3 AIR, and AIR offers more options for customization, so I would go with it.

[Timur2345]

Originally posted by Tsuki Zero:

Originally posted by mottim:

Try to compare Sonic 3 Complete next time, ok?

But Sonic 3 Complete is a romhack, Sonic 3 A.I.R. is basically a frontend to play unmodified Sonic 3 & Knuckles with optional modifications and widescreen

I still think S3C is the definitive and most customizable experience you can get, but to each their own i guess...

[Tsuki Zero]

Originally posted by mottim:

Originally posted by Tsuki Zero:

But Sonic 3 Complete is a romhack, Sonic 3 A.I.R. is basically a frontend to play unmodified Sonic 3 & Knuckles with optional modifications and widescreen

I still think S3C is the definitive and most customizable experience you can get, but to each their own i guess...

Does it have ACTUAL wide screen, for one?

[litehouse89]

A more fair comparison might be comparing this to Sonic Jam which came directly from Sega and also sought to remake these games and create a definitive experience with challenges, a museum, etc. Sonic Jam's ports were better quality, had more options, and the museum was probably the best that Sega's made to this point. It didn't have Sonic CD available, but otherwise Jam is a major step up from Origins. I've heard Mega Collection and some of the other re-releases were also excellent. I wanted to like Sonic Origins, but it's disappointing.

[Owlet VII]

Originally posted by litehouse89:

Sonic Jam's ports were better quality

Not really, if you judge them objectively. Jam has much, much worse collision detection, so bad that softlocks are a common occurrence.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by litehouse89:

I've heard Mega Collection and some of the other re-releases were also excellent.

Sonic Mega Collection Plus was brilliant! Sonic Gems Collection not as much, but still really good (and even includes CD). Both collections you should be able to find fairly easily on the PS2 for very cheap. I've found copies in retro game shops that combined, go for half the total sale price of Sonic Origins yet you get way more games included, including all 12 Game Gear games.