Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered

Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered

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Tiake 2022년 9월 18일 오후 5시 00분
The Best Presented SaGa
For those wondering what this game is, its a remaster of the PS2 remake of Romancing SaGa 1 on the SNES. This is an old style JRPG, but its also of a rather different flavor than Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

My understanding is its more well known and regarding in Japan, and could be looked at as the fourth SE series, alongside the Mana series. I can't speak regarding other individuals opinions towards this game, nor this series, to be honest. I don't have enough mastery over the English language to describe my excitement at this remaster though. And I am a native English speaker. Needless to say, I'm excited, so feel free to ignore my ramblings.

All of the SaGa games are unique open ended experiences, but most of them I can't get into. This one is a bit more accessible, and the presentation was clearly a labour of love back on the PS2. It has full voice acting, an excellent soundtrack, lots of animations, with different stances with different weapons for the various characters, et cetera. The other SaGa games might have equal or greater depth, but this game balances its depth with visual and audio depth the others don't match. I have been playing this game on and off for 15 years. Not going to lie, my PS2 died years ago, and I've used PCSX2 to keep playing, even pulling my saves directly from the original memory card, which is a process. I'm sure others have beaten everything, but I don't finish games. I've at least beaten this one with 4/8 characters, and close on my 5th. Yet I am looking forward to starting all over with the new content the SaGa team has added. Back to 0/8.

If anyone has questions on the game, I'm happy to help answer them, without spoiling things. There is of course plenty of information online about this game, since its just a remaster, but nonetheless.

Thanks Square Enix, happy to pay you $25 for this. More of these remasters with content updates, or remakes like Trials of Mana! The SNES-PS2 was the golden era where budgets allowed for well presented, but unique games. There is no reason every game has to either be AAA or 8-bit.
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Lametta 2022년 9월 18일 오후 10시 39분 
since you seem to know the game pretty well, how will the new game + mide that get added with this version affect the game? Will it be easier to plow through the quests you might already have done?
Improved Playability – Various new features have been added to make your play experience even more convenient, such as a high speed mode, mini maps, and a “New Game +” option that lets you carry over your progress when you play through the game again.
I guess they are talking about carrying ocer learned skills and stats.

Edit:
These are things that you can supposedly carry over.
https://i.imgur.com/XRk4RWY.jpeg
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Tiake 2022년 9월 19일 오전 9시 54분 
The game always had new game+, it was part of the design.

The original carried over certain actions, that could lead to a couple new quests or slight event changes. Other things the original carried over were things like shop ranks (better stuff on offer), more jewel rewards per playthrough (stacking) (for raising skills / classes), and other subtle things to make the next character(s) a little easier.

In the remaster, it sounds like you can selectively carry over things like stats and weapons? That could be useful if you wanted to do quests early, and found it too difficult the first time. I'm not sure how it would work if you use new characters, and there are a lot of cool ones, so why wouldn't you? If we can carry over gear, that would be my favorite part. There is some incredibly rare gear that would be cool to have on hand for future playthroughs. That would probably give you a enough of a leg up for anything the game can throw at you anyways, and preserve your ability to choose new characters.

All that said, yes, if you carried over an end game party, you could curb stomp the first 2/3rds of the game. It might also help you see quest chains through to completion too, being more free to tackle everything as soon as you encounter it. But that could backfire, if you ignore the easy quests, as many quests are subtly interwoven.
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Stormzcale 2022년 9월 19일 오후 4시 05분 
Hey T, will you be going over any newbie friendly things like the Egg Quest or Pyrix trick? I'l be making updated videos on both those as soon as i can myself if they are still in.
Tiake 2022년 9월 19일 오후 6시 25분 
I've never been one to write guides or anything like that. I know both of those, but even after quite a few runs, I don't really bother with either.

I usually am focused on getting whatever party I want together, then just complete the quests as I come across them. Admittedly I've read enough guides and played the game enough that I know most of the game, including ways to abuse combat pretty hard, since you need to in order to reach a certain sleeping frog. I will reference guides if I want to do specific things, as each play through I usually have a few goals.

Generally I know my way around pretty well, but I don't have everything memorized. I'm looking forward to playing the remaster on just my memory.

(Looking at the image that Lametta posted though, I could see ways to abuse that system to intentionally make the game harder. That sounds awesome. Carrying over items and maybe some other things, but not stats, and then carrying over the monster ranks. It might be hard to find a balance where you don't just instantly get mollywomped, but that sounds fun. Maybe when I have figured things out more, I will try to come up with a compelling challenge for myself, and post it for others haha.)
kinghyu 2022년 9월 21일 오후 12시 00분 
After this remaster version , Square Enix may release another pixel version .......
Lametta 2022년 9월 21일 오후 12시 25분 
kinghyu님이 먼저 게시:
After this remaster version , Square Enix may release another pixel version .......
what game is left besides saga frontier 2?
Sephiroth 2022년 9월 27일 오전 1시 40분 
is this the first game?
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Tiake 2022년 9월 27일 오후 7시 06분 
This is kind of the first game. It is a stand alone title regardless, but technically it is the remaster of a remake of the fourth "SaGa" game. "SaGa" is a collection of titles that are even more disparate than the "Final Fantasy" series from Square Enix, and this title carries over no story references, ect.
(I don't think any of the "SaGa" games are related to one another actually.)

The first three "SaGa" games were known as Final Fantasy Legend I-III in the West. These were on the GameBoy handheld system.

Romancing SaGa was released originally on the Super Famicom (Super Nintendo) in Japan, along with Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. None of these were released in the West.

The first game was remade from the ground up for the PS2 and the United States market did get that game. (I'm not sure Europe did?) This is a remaster of that game. Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 recently were re-released with official translations on modern platforms, but those games are largely the same as they were on the Super Nintendo.

This game has significant presentation improvements over any other "SaGa" title. It also has additions mechanically over its original Super Nintendo release, some mechanics I think are borrowed from later games and lessons, so its not a 1 to 1 remake of the original game. This remaster release also adds even more improvements and content over the PS2 version.
[サガ] Baz 2022년 9월 27일 오후 8시 42분 
kinghyu님이 먼저 게시:
After this remaster version , Square Enix may release another pixel version .......
Akitoshi Kawazu (SaGa series director) already stated that making a pixel art 'demake' would be difficult due to its cost and time development, that's the reason they decided to make a Remaster.
https://twitter.com/SaGa30kawazu/status/1299905220881776641
"There is no conclusion on what to do with the remake / remaster of Romancing SaGa.

Super Nintendo version ・
Minstrel Song as it is ・
Minstrel Song content is converted into pixel art (super difficult) ・
Minstrel Song full remake (it costs money) ・

Every option would make some people happy and some people unhappy. "
Tiake 2022년 9월 30일 오후 7시 40분 
The combat is a bit different, so that is fair. It has a solid amount of depth, but much of it is also simply a visual affair. Your characters eventually have way more moves than you will actually need to use, with many having similar damage / cost. The first few hours its rather basic, but once you hit the early mid game, you start to have a variety of different attacks, and it can be difficult to spam the better ones.

There is a good amount of depth happening before combat occurs too, but not all of it is obvious nor really recommended your first time playing.

To speak directly regarding its complexity and ease of use, I'd have to know what its being compared against. It has similar depth as Final Fantasy games, but learning new attacks is chance based, and character growth is driven by how you use them, not direct choices. (There are actually a lot of factors that influence the chances for learning new attacks, and the big direct choice for characters is who you recruit, what weapon type(s) they use, and what magic you teach them.) If we are comparing it to something like a CRPG, then yeah, its fairly simple.

I would expect the world and lack of story to be more off putting for most than the combat, to be honest. I can totally see being put off by this game initially, I was at first myself.
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Yerc2 2022년 10월 1일 오후 7시 45분 
Does this rendition of the game have any censorship compared to it's previous release?
How about compared to the Japanese releases?
TheShadowHatter 2022년 10월 11일 오전 11시 06분 
I'm just as excited as you are about this game OP. This game alone inspired me to create an entire YouTube series dedicated to spotlighting games that are underrated and not known by many. I've been on hiatus and idk if I'll ever go back to making YouTube videos but I'll share the one for this game just because it's relevant and you guys might get some enjoyment out of it. Seriously can't wait for this game it's my most favorite video game of ALL TIME!

https://youtu.be/GCRIPl3y110
Tiake 2022년 10월 11일 오후 4시 13분 
The content of your review is pretty spot on to be honest. The audio balance feels off, but I like that you let the game speak for itself.

In particular, I was surprised by the negative remarks by some people on the art style. The art style of this game is timeless. Stylized art styles usually hold up better over time. The water color aesthetic is unique, and the chibi character designs make sense given its a remake of an SNES game. Not many games look like this one, further enhancing its unique appeal.

Your remarks about the lack of direction and challenge playing this game blindly is likely the biggest flaw with the game. Its a game that ends up more enjoyable the more you know about it, which isn't what I'd say about most JRPGs. Most are one and done, or at least not immediately replayable. The most exciting thing about finishing a playthrough of Romancing SaGa is starting the next one. However, when I think about my experiences with other SaGa games, where I am often turned off by being lost too much, and not wanting to pursue a guide to solve the issue my first playthrough, I can see why so many bounce off this game too...

(I did play this game blind ages ago, but I'm used to using a guide at this point. I can get by without it most of the time, but its helpful to plan things. I feel like most the SaGa games likely are more fun when you know what you *can* do, and are given the power of choosing what you *want* to do. Its a shame for most of them you won't reasonably reach that point naturally.)
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Stormzcale 2022년 11월 2일 오전 6시 23분 
Agree the Review is spot on. Especially mentioning that playing with a Guide to help manage ER is recommended.
Michael the Meek 2022년 11월 11일 오전 2시 38분 
I really wish they would have just remade RS1 in 2D-HD like RS2 and 3 just for consistency sake but i understand why they just ported this version instead.
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