fix Kale and vegeto transformations

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Kale just transform into ss2 is you are in normal form that make no sense. Vegeto cannot alternate into ss1 after make the fusion in battle, just blue and normal

[The Gray Fox]

What?

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

there's another Vegito that goes Super Saiyan. you gotta pick the Buu Saga variant not the Super variant.

not sure about Kale, she should have Berzerker and SS2 (or something like that).

[Azure Wolf]

I assume by SSJ2 Kale you mean her berserker state? Her berserker state is SUPPOSED to come first. Because then she gets control over it.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

there's another Vegito that goes Super Saiyan. you gotta pick the Buu Saga variant not the Super variant.

not sure about Kale, she should have Berzerker and SS2 (or something like that).

This doesn't make sense because when I select Vegetto, two options appears ss1 ssblue transformations appear, but if u peform fusion in battle with Goku n Vetega super, you cant tranform into ss1 theres no sense.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by Azure Fire:

I assume by SSJ2 Kale you mean her berserker state? Her berserker state is SUPPOSED to come first. Because then she gets control over it.

nah what are you saying bro?, She should be just like Broly, Broly can transform into ss1 and then ss2 i don care 4 names, Kale in the anime she goes ss1 then ss2 teh same way as Broly, why in this game you cannot do this, you cannot alternate from Kale ss1 to ss2, uou gave to go back to normal form to jump to ss2, that doesnt make sense.

[Azure Wolf]

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

nah what are you saying bro?, She should be just like Broly, Broly can transform into ss1 and then ss2 i don care 4 names, Kale in the anime she goes ss1 then ss2 teh same way as Broly, why in this game you cannot do this, you cannot alternate from Kale ss1 to ss2, uou gave to go back to normal form to jump to ss2, that doesnt make sense.

I'm not even sure if we're talking about the same character anymore. Broly does not have a SSJ2 form. He never did.

You mean Kale right? Meek girl who turns into a female Broly? Not Caulifla or Kefla?

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by Azure Fire:

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

nah what are you saying bro?, She should be just like Broly, Broly can transform into ss1 and then ss2 i don care 4 names, Kale in the anime she goes ss1 then ss2 teh same way as Broly, why in this game you cannot do this, you cannot alternate from Kale ss1 to ss2, uou gave to go back to normal form to jump to ss2, that doesnt make sense.

I'm not even sure if we're talking about the same character anymore. Broly does not have a SSJ2 form. He never did.

You mean Kale right? Meek girl who turns into a female Broly? Not Caulifla or Kefla?

Forget about the transformation names. Broly has two forms—one stronger than the other—which I refer to as level 1 and level 2. Kale has the same two forms, just like Broly. However, in the game, Kale can't go directly from level 1 to level 2; the option to transform into her level 2 form, which you call 'Berserker,' doesn't appear if already in level 1... and yes im talking about Kale the famele sayajim that get very muscular in her tranformations

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Let's say she has 3 forms: 0, 1, and 2. She can go from 0 to 2, but she can't go from 1 to 2, got it?

[Azure Wolf]

OK, I think I understand. Now Kale's Berserker form, what you call 2, would technically be her first transformation, not second. That slimmer form is actually supposed to be her stronger form. I have not played Kale, but check if while you are a Berserker you can change into the other slimmer Super Saiyan form.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by Azure Fire:

OK, I think I understand. Now Kale's Berserker form, what you call 2, would technically be her first transformation, not second. That slimmer form is actually supposed to be her stronger form. I have not played Kale, but check if while you are a Berserker you can change into the other slimmer Super Saiyan form.

i already cheked in her normal form she can trasform to ss1, from ss1 she can only returns to normal form, the same for Berserker, and in the anime berserker is her second tranformation, she fight against Goku she goes to ss1 then berserker, this got to be a error of the devs.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

Originally posted by Azure Fire:

I'm not even sure if we're talking about the same character anymore. Broly does not have a SSJ2 form. He never did.

You mean Kale right? Meek girl who turns into a female Broly? Not Caulifla or Kefla?

Forget about the transformation names. Broly has two forms—one stronger than the other—which I refer to as level 1 and level 2. Kale has the same two forms, just like Broly. However, in the game, Kale can't go directly from level 1 to level 2; the option to transform into her level 2 form, which you call 'Berserker,' doesn't appear if already in level 1... and yes im talking about Kale the famele sayajim that get very muscular in her tranformations

Don't ask me why, but it's probably because her Berserker form costs 7 DP points and her ssj2 costs 6 DP, which makes me believe the game actually ranks the berserker form as stronger.

Again, don't ask me why.

[Azure Wolf]

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

i already cheked in her normal form she can trasform to ss1, from ss1 she can only returns to normal form, the same for Berserker, and in the anime berserker is her second tranformation, she fight against Goku she goes to ss1 then berserker, this got to be a error of the devs.

It could be an error, but honestly it makes sense to me that you can't change between her Super Saiyan forms. That's because both of her Super Saiyan forms are technically just the same Super Saiyan 1 form, but she has control in one form and is berserking in the other. This is not a SSJ1 transforming into SSJ2 situation.

And so we're clear she definitely went from Base to Berserk in the anime against Goku. Berserk Kale was always her first transformation in the anime.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

Forget about the transformation names. Broly has two forms—one stronger than the other—which I refer to as level 1 and level 2. Kale has the same two forms, just like Broly. However, in the game, Kale can't go directly from level 1 to level 2; the option to transform into her level 2 form, which you call 'Berserker,' doesn't appear if already in level 1... and yes im talking about Kale the famele sayajim that get very muscular in her tranformations

Don't ask me why, but it's probably because her Berserker form costs 7 DP points and her ssj2 costs 6 DP, which makes me believe the game actually ranks the berserker form as stronger.

Again, don't ask me why.

nah, it cant be this, even when you dont have points enough when you open trasformation menu you can still see the tranformations there but with blocked sign, in this case the option dont even appears.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

Originally posted by Azure Fire:

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

i already cheked in her normal form she can trasform to ss1, from ss1 she can only returns to normal form, the same for Berserker, and in the anime berserker is her second tranformation, she fight against Goku she goes to ss1 then berserker, this got to be a error of the devs.

It could be an error, but honestly it makes sense to me that you can't change between her Super Saiyan forms. That's because both of her Super Saiyan forms are technically just the same Super Saiyan 1 form, but she has control in one form and is berserking in the other. This is not a SSJ1 transforming into SSJ2 situation.

And so we're clear she definitely went from Base to Berserk in the anime against Goku. Berserk Kale was always her first transformation in the anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udDidDvAzPQ just jump to 11:20 of the video

[Azure Wolf]

Originally posted by ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

just jump to 11:07 of the video

Well, I've been wrong before. Still my point about the mechanics in my last comment stands. You can't think about it like a Super Saiyan 1 changing into Super Saiyan 2. Berserk Kale is not a "net positive" over her controled SSJ form. Which is why, I think, you can't go from one to the other in this game.