Goku episode The truth about zamasu

[Eminent Demon]

This is the most annoying one, is it bugged or something? Ive spammed ults and sparking mode and can't kill goku black before the speech, havnt seen anyone on youtube do it. Is this even possible? It's really stupid and annoying how tedious they made this one

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

I've killed black in that one, but I can't kill them both in the next one over where fused zamsu shows up lol. Can't get that alternate for the life of me.

What difficulty? Every time i do it, they ai is blatantly cheating by spamming perfect counters, dodging, perfect guarding ki moves and attacks without losing any ki. It's fking stupid making a game where the ai ignores the game mechanics

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Eminent Demon:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

I've killed black in that one, but I can't kill them both in the next one over where fused zamsu shows up lol. Can't get that alternate for the life of me.

What difficulty? Every time i do it, they ai is blatantly cheating by spamming perfect counters, dodging, perfect guarding ki moves and attacks without losing any ki. It's fking stupid making a game where the ai ignores the game mechanics

Alternates can't be done in anything lower than default. So default? And yes they spam counters a lot, but you are blue goku with kaoiken. Use it =P

[Me Dicen Kmoral]

it is possible, i did it

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Eminent Demon:

What difficulty? Every time i do it, they ai is blatantly cheating by spamming perfect counters, dodging, perfect guarding ki moves and attacks without losing any ki. It's fking stupid making a game where the ai ignores the game mechanics

Alternates can't be done in anything lower than default. So default? And yes they spam counters a lot, but you are blue goku with kaoiken. Use it =P

Yeah im doing that, doesn't stop the ai spamming perfect counters and dodge blocking without losing any ki or power. The fact that they can get you into an infinite combo and there is no way out of it even with ki is stupid, but when i do it to them they break out like its no big deal. Again the ai ignore the game mechanics

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Eminent Demon:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Alternates can't be done in anything lower than default. So default? And yes they spam counters a lot, but you are blue goku with kaoiken. Use it =P

Yeah im doing that, doesn't stop the ai spamming perfect counters and dodge blocking without losing any ki or power. The fact that they can get you into an infinite combo and there is no way out of it even with ki is stupid, but when i do it to them they break out like its no big deal. Again the ai ignore the game mechanics

Vanishing doesn't cost ki in this game and perfect counters cost skill gauge, not ki. If you get into an infinite combo chain, you have to Z counter if your back is turned, but if it isn't you revenge counter or z counter.

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Eminent Demon:

Yeah im doing that, doesn't stop the ai spamming perfect counters and dodge blocking without losing any ki or power. The fact that they can get you into an infinite combo and there is no way out of it even with ki is stupid, but when i do it to them they break out like its no big deal. Again the ai ignore the game mechanics

Vanishing doesn't cost ki in this game and perfect counters cost skill gauge, not ki. If you get into an infinite combo chain, you have to Z counter if your back is turned, but if it isn't you revenge counter or z counter.

Have you not seen with the ai do? They ignore that completely, they will perfect counter when it looks absolutely impossible repeatedly over and over again,. zamasu if i try to counter him or break out when hes attacking me from behind, boom perfect counter rinse repeat then i try vanish or counter he perfect counters rinse repeat. It's stupid, this needs balancing because none of that makes sense. For them it costs nothing, no ki, no skill gauge, nothing

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Eminent Demon:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Vanishing doesn't cost ki in this game and perfect counters cost skill gauge, not ki. If you get into an infinite combo chain, you have to Z counter if your back is turned, but if it isn't you revenge counter or z counter.

Have you not seen with the ai do? They ignore that completely, they will perfect counter when it looks absolutely impossible repeatedly over and over again,. zamasu if i try to counter him or break out when hes attacking me from behind, boom perfect counter rinse repeat then i try vanish or counter he perfect counters rinse repeat. It's stupid, this needs balancing because none of that makes sense. For them it costs nothing, no ki, no skill gauge, nothing

I primarily fight the AI with only fisticuffs, but this fight I had to do sparking and use the breakthrough kameha while kaoiken. So yeah, I've seen what the AI can do. That fight took me about 40 minutes and a lot of retires. My friends were loving it on my discord stream though haha. They were like "I wanna get here, this looks fun!" cause that fight was chaotic.

[Me Dicen Kmoral]

advise, go full sparking, rush combo him until your almost out of sparking and ult, if they vanish you vanish their vanish, if they stunt lock you then revenge counter, takes a lot of practice to get the timing but once you have it you destroy everything

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Me Dicen Kmoral:

advise, go full sparking, rush combo him until your almost out of sparking and ult, if they vanish you vanish their vanish, if they stunt lock you then revenge counter, takes a lot of practice to get the timing but once you have it you destroy everything

Nah i give up, this is stupid, they are literally ignoring the game mechanics, zamasu is a prime example, my friends on discord are watching and they are watching him vanish dodge counter without losing any skill bars or ki, make it make sense. Hope the day one patch fixes this, because this is just dumb. At least in elden ring and dark souls where the game is unfair but you can learn to fight against it and still will, this game just blatantly cheats, while the ai ignore everything. The fact that they can z vanish while your attacking them from behind but you can't do that just proves it.

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Me Dicen Kmoral:

advise, go full sparking, rush combo him until your almost out of sparking and ult, if they vanish you vanish their vanish, if they stunt lock you then revenge counter, takes a lot of practice to get the timing but once you have it you destroy everything

and i've done this against zamasu, i get him to a certain amount and he vanishes away, its not enough. Even when he's about to die he will pull the cheat card out of his butt and start perfect blocking and countering even if im in sparking mode with kaioken

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Me Dicen Kmoral:

advise, go full sparking, rush combo him until your almost out of sparking and ult, if they vanish you vanish their vanish, if they stunt lock you then revenge counter, takes a lot of practice to get the timing but once you have it you destroy everything

There isn't even a single person on youtube that's done it. Even when timing it it goes back and forth like 10 times in a row

[Dagornchaos]

Go sparking and give him hands right before it goes out knock him back then charge back into sparking I have finished all of the story mode except goku black.when you get the time right your new issue will become doing the mission too fast and only getting the alternative outcomes spent and hour on jirins because I selected the wrong dialog 4 fight early

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Dagornchaos:

Go sparking and give him hands right before it goes out knock him back then charge back into sparking I have finished all of the story mode except goku black.when you get the time right your new issue will become doing the mission too fast and only getting the alternative outcomes spent and hour on jirins because I selected the wrong dialog 4 fight early

people are saying you can equip items, i dont think you can in episode mode. Do i need to kill goku black or zamasu?

[Ludicrits]

I just managed to do it myself. The timing leaves you maybe 1, or 2 mess ups in a combination before you need to restart it. I tried to time my ultimate move with the last of my sparking meter. It usually left me at least 1 skill point to charge back into sparking. He somehow becomes blinded from this and it allows you to charge back to full. Rinse, repeat.

You definitely need to ult spam to beat it, with the overtuned ai on that fight currently. it's not fun at all to play that way though. I found its pretty much a guaranteed hit when he's launched flying into the air and you immediately ult.

[Eminent Demon]

Originally posted by Ludicrits:

I just managed to do it myself. The timing leaves you maybe 1, or 2 mess ups in a combination before you need to restart it. I tried to time my ultimate move with the last of my sparking meter. It usually left me at least 1 skill point to charge back into sparking. He somehow becomes blinded from this and it allows you to charge back to full. Rinse, repeat.

You definitely need to ult spam to beat it, with the overtuned ai on that fight currently. it's not fun at all to play that way though.

maybe i should just wait for the day 1 patch then, i don't want to beat him by spamming, that feels cheap and unrewarding