Frieza first alternative path too hard?

[Dcethe]

You need to defeat 4 characters in about 2 minutes, maybe less considering I killed Goku, Krillian, and Gohan in 1 minute and it took around 20 seconds with me smacking picolo before the cutscene triggered.

Is it bugged or does someone have a way to clear it? would like to see the little extra scene.

[Hantu]

Alternatives and What If fights are supposed to be really difficult. It's one of the novelties of the Budokai games. They're not impossible they're just really, really tough and you have to keep retrying until you do it perfectly

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by Hantu:

Alternatives and What If fights are supposed to be really difficult. It's one of the novelties of the Budokai games. They're not impossible they're just really, really tough and you have to keep retrying until you do it perfectly

yea except its not hard, its a time restraint that doesn't add anything. I'm asking if anyones completed it yet.

EDIT: its done, but theres a worse path just like it but with SSGSSJ Goku and Vegeta. I don't know what it means by "defeat them quickly"

For the first one all you need to do is save the sparking for picolo and instantly pop it, then use his insta spark and kill him fast. the other 2 don't really matter I think. I killed the first 4 in under 2 minutes finally.

[patkyr7]

This mission is either bugged or it has a completely different condition to clear it the alternative way. I literally beat Piccolo in like 10 seconds or something, was lucky enough to hit him the moment he got in with the death ball, then directly insta maxed and paralized him to hit the second one and it STILL didnt let me off him and held him tight with 1hp. If i seriously have to once again keep my first health bar till the finish, this will be ridiculous

EDIT: you INDEED mustn't lose your first health bar. I did exactly the same thing with piccolo like always, but only this time did his dialogue not start. I cant even... except if it wants that you defeat everyone quickly, cuz now I see that it states ''defeat all members within a given time''

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by patkyr7:

This mission is either bugged or it has a completely different condition to clear it the alternative way. I literally beat Piccolo in like 10 seconds or something, was lucky enough to hit him the moment he got in with the death ball, then directly insta maxed and paralized him to hit the second one and it STILL didnt let me off him and held him tight with 1hp. If i seriously have to once again keep my first health bar till the finish, this will be ridiculous

EDIT: you INDEED mustn't lose your first health bar. I did exactly the same thing with piccolo like always, but only this time did his dialogue not start. I cant even... except if it wants that you defeat everyone quickly, cuz now I see that it states ''defeat all members within a given time''

Yea this is a ♥♥♥♥ translation or something. they need to add more details to the alternative conditions so we can actually aim for them with some reliability without guessing what the true conditions are.

How does "You need to beat x quickly" becomes you can't like 1 healthbar. This entire Time I thought it was a time limit.

[PlayForWin]

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Originally posted by Hantu:

Alternatives and What If fights are supposed to be really difficult. It's one of the novelties of the Budokai games. They're not impossible they're just really, really tough and you have to keep retrying until you do it perfectly

yea except its not hard, its a time restraint that doesn't add anything. I'm asking if anyones completed it yet.

EDIT: its done, but theres a worse path just like it but with SSGSSJ Goku and Vegeta. I don't know what it means by "defeat them quickly"

For the first one all you need to do is save the sparking for picolo and instantly pop it, then use his insta spark and kill him fast. the other 2 don't really matter I think. I killed the first 4 in under 2 minutes finally.

You need to beat them after they fuse, they will scream and slideshow will play, i thought i have to kill them before they fuse but it is scripted so you cant

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by |KSL| PlayForWin:

Originally posted by Dcethe:

yea except its not hard, its a time restraint that doesn't add anything. I'm asking if anyones completed it yet.

EDIT: its done, but theres a worse path just like it but with SSGSSJ Goku and Vegeta. I don't know what it means by "defeat them quickly"

For the first one all you need to do is save the sparking for picolo and instantly pop it, then use his insta spark and kill him fast. the other 2 don't really matter I think. I killed the first 4 in under 2 minutes finally.

You need to beat them after they fuse, they will scream and slideshow will play, i thought i have to kill them before they fuse but it is scripted so you cant

Which mission are you talking about? I was referring to Friezas story arc where she invades Earth in her Golden Form. I beat them and they never fused.

You talking about Goku Black?

[KitEclipsis]

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Originally posted by patkyr7:

This mission is either bugged or it has a completely different condition to clear it the alternative way. I literally beat Piccolo in like 10 seconds or something, was lucky enough to hit him the moment he got in with the death ball, then directly insta maxed and paralized him to hit the second one and it STILL didnt let me off him and held him tight with 1hp. If i seriously have to once again keep my first health bar till the finish, this will be ridiculous

EDIT: you INDEED mustn't lose your first health bar. I did exactly the same thing with piccolo like always, but only this time did his dialogue not start. I cant even... except if it wants that you defeat everyone quickly, cuz now I see that it states ''defeat all members within a given time''

Yea this is a ♥♥♥♥ translation or something. they need to add more details to the alternative conditions so we can actually aim for them with some reliability without guessing what the true conditions are.

How does "You need to beat x quickly" becomes you can't like 1 healthbar. This entire Time I thought it was a time limit.

Ok so I was just using this forum for help (great research btw, helpful for me to beat the level) and it definitely is some time based action, cause I was able to destroy both Krillin and Goten easily, about 40 seconds, then was able to kill Piccolo with the sparking ultimate move. After that, Goku should come back, and I defeated him to get the alternate ending.
Had at least one less health bar than starting with, but after Goku comes back it's all good for the health to go down.

[tsuki]

health bar doesn't matter, strategy is:
>ultimate move soon as piccolo appears
>insta max
>ultimate move again
piccolo should die and goku appear, time limit is really small so keep trying
at least for me i had lost the first health bar and still got it.

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by tsuki:

health bar doesn't matter, strategy is:
>ultimate move soon as piccolo appears
>insta max
>ultimate move again
piccolo should die and goku appear, time limit is really small so keep trying
at least for me i had lost the first health bar and still got it.

Nah when Goku appears again the time limit doesn't matter anymore, but yea that Is what I did with piccolo

[ssss_j]

Does it matter how fast you beat Goku, Krillin and gohan ? Is it enough if you beat Piccolo ? I never hated so much piccolo in my life i always runs away from the sparking