Force Fusion/Transformation/etc not working?

[CrossTrash]

Is anyone else having trouble with the "force fusion/transformation/etc" effect in custom battle? It doesn't seem to work no matter what I do. My guess is that the player need to have the skill meter for it? But I'm trying to have it at the very start of the battle. So does anyone know how to force a full skill meter at the start of a battle?

[SuperRedo]

I've been having the same issue too, I'd assume "force transformation" would just... force a transformation no matter what but it seems none of the effects play

[SuperRedo]

Oh i JUST got it to work, make sure it's set to HP equal or lower and not equal or higher

[Kair'ah]

Originally posted by SuperRedo:

Oh i JUST got it to work, make sure it's set to HP equal or lower and not equal or higher

I have this setting, but it still doesn't work...any tips?

[CrossTrash]

OK SO I think i found a fix, go to the fusion characters settings, and check their fusion restrictions. I had goku and vegeta unable to fuse into gogeta or vegito, but when i turned that back on, the force fusion worked.

[RageFace251]

Originally posted by CrossTrash:

OK SO I think i found a fix, go to the fusion characters settings, and check their fusion restrictions. I had goku and vegeta unable to fuse into gogeta or vegito, but when i turned that back on, the force fusion worked.

It should work even if you have the restriction on, should just stop the player from initiating it. It still lets you force a transform with effects.

[Lullinico]

ya'll i tried everything but it still aint working

[AtomicBeck]

Same for me, I set up a gogeta vs fused zamasu scenario that would go through all of goku and vegetas transformations before they all fused towards the end game of the scenario and everything worked, every trigger, every forced transformation. Even when I forced fused zamasu, it worked, but when it came time for goku to fuse with vegeta, it never triggered. I have all restrictions on to stop players from initiating things themselves and everything worked fine up until gogeta fusion. I tried fusion specific restriction ON and OFF but it was the same outcome. Its frustrating, it makes me think its either bugged of im fully missing some logic in the triggers. Ive even tried using other effect tables but I cant even tell if its triggering on those.

[superVnova]

From what I am aware you can only force fuse in base form. This because the SS forms are other characters and thus the rule you make doesn't apply.

Same goes when you want to revert Kale Berserk to base. The game thinks it is another character.

[Brence]

I've been having the same issue too

[jschoewe]

I figured out a workaround for anyone still having trouble. I wanted to make a custom battle of ssj4 Goku and Vegeta vs ssb Goku and Vegeta and make them fuse mid match but for some reason you can't make Goku and Vegeta blue fuse in the effect settings. I think this is kind of dumb and perhaps a bug but I needed to use base super Goku to start and make him transform to blue immediately. Then, after some health loss, base Vegeta tags in and switches to blue immediately. Then after more health loss I transform Vegeta back into base and can fuse into ssb Gogeta

[Kazen]

Originally posted by jschoewe:

I figured out a workaround for anyone still having trouble. I wanted to make a custom battle of ssj4 Goku and Vegeta vs ssb Goku and Vegeta and make them fuse mid match but for some reason you can't make Goku and Vegeta blue fuse in the effect settings. I think this is kind of dumb and perhaps a bug but I needed to use base super Goku to start and make him transform to blue immediately. Then, after some health loss, base Vegeta tags in and switches to blue immediately. Then after more health loss I transform Vegeta back into base and can fuse into ssb Gogeta

It's not a bug, Blue Goku and Vegeta can't fuse in effect settings because it's not an option for them. The same restrictions for them in-game apply in effect settings, Blue Goku and Vegeta can't fuse in a normal game so you need the one initiating the fusion to be able to in base. This is also why SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta works, they need to be in SSJ4 to fuse normally.

Note that just like in the game as well, only the one initiating the fusion needs to be in the right form, so as long as say Goku's in base whatever form Vegeta's in won't matter as long as Goku initiates the fusion and vice versa. Just having one revert to base and having the fusion immediately after in the same setting works (I did this in a scenario with SSJ3 Goku reverting to base and them him and SSJ2 Vegeta fuse into Super Vegito). Same restriction applies for them both needing to be alive, if one dies before the fusion effect activates the fusion won't happen. I agree it's kinda dumb that they keep the restrictions but not hard to work around once you realize that.

[dosidosi_]

Had the same problem but I had items on restricting it. Not sure if you have the same issue but for anyone who needs: IF YOU EQUIP 'BAN TRANSFORMATION or BAN SWITCH'
Set an effect for Remove Z-Items for ALLIES or your chosen character
Then set an effect for Force Transformation of your choosing
Then set an effect for Equip Z-Items so that the player cannot just undo the transformation or transform into another form.

Thats just what I did, kind've annoying. Hope they really fix it since "FORCE" transformation means what it means, to FORCE a transformation and ignore item rules.

[女王 [Queen]]

How IS item gameplay?