The game is DEAD ff we don't get what's important fixed

[emi | moved on]

The game's been out for three weeks and we got no hotfixs to the ragequitim problem ----> ranked mode unplayable and nonsensical to even play

No broken low DP characters nerf ----> Dp is unplayable(every game is the same 4 characters)

No crossplay

Controller bugs

As it goes it hasn't got much time left

[Revenant]

communication error has occurred ........

rage quitting.

[Khern]

No crossplay is a really bad choice, but i don't know if it's even possible in P2P.

[Arestris]

Wow didn't know ... but must be true if YOU say so ...

[Zabelfrie]

I think they really hurt themselves by recreating a Budokai Tenkaichi game but also putting a ranked mode in there. Now we have all of these sweaty controller clingers complaining about balance because they genuinely believe that your rank matters in a game that is an unbalanced nightmare. If it's a party arena fighter, don't give incentive to win at all costs because people will pick broken characters. Genuinely as simple as that.

As for quality of life, I think crossplay isn't achievable with the set up they have here. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

A small couple of complaints I do have is how long it takes to get into any kind of unranked match. If you pick any kind of unranked match you'll be put into a lobby and you can never just find a match quickly for some reason yet ranked seems to be able to put you into a match instantly. Definitely some changes warranted there.

Controller bugs I do actually agree with. The amount of times I've input LT + A + A to do a dragon dash only to be met with a grab is actually frustrating sometimes. There's other little bits like the Y follow-ups blocking the Super moves if you're too quick about it as well. I just think it could use some tuning up.

[Chris]

Originally posted by Khern:

No crossplay is a really bad choice, but i don't know if it's even possible in P2P.

tekken 8 is P2P and it has crossplay

[Kankaku]

Originally posted by Khern:

No crossplay is a really bad choice, but i don't know if it's even possible in P2P.

Game isn't peer to peer. It's client server authoritative.

[Shady]

Originally posted by Khern:

No crossplay is a really bad choice, but i don't know if it's even possible in P2P.

Funny enough, being P2P causes most of this game's problems.

[Shady]

Originally posted by Kankaku:

Originally posted by Khern:

No crossplay is a really bad choice, but i don't know if it's even possible in P2P.

Game isn't peer to peer. It's client server authoritative.

I don't know what this means, but I doubt it's an explanation to my input and on-screen events not mattering as much as theirs.

[Kankaku]

Originally posted by Shady:

Originally posted by Kankaku:

Game isn't peer to peer. It's client server authoritative.

I don't know what this means, but I doubt it's an explanation to my input and on-screen events not mattering as much as theirs.

It's a hybrid networking system where in this case the player with the lower framerate dictates the framerate of the match being sent by the server. It's actually the perfect answer for your input and on screen events not mattering as much as your opponents because it's the main cause of it.

If your opponent has 30fps whilst you have 60 then you'll be getting 30fps with frameskip x2 sent on your end. This results in a frametime window for super counters and other button presses to be halved i.e a super counter which normally has a window of 4 frames will have only 2 etc.

But no the game is not Peer to Peer. It's like peer to peer with a server middle man.

[Ðëprávèd•Mïšçréånt]

Soon there will be so few players online globally, it won't matter what your connection filter settings are, you will not be able to match make for ranked.

So yes, Bandai need to pull the lead out and get cracking on these fixes

[BUNGO]

Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

I think they really hurt themselves by recreating a Budokai Tenkaichi game but also putting a ranked mode in there. Now we have all of these sweaty controller clingers complaining about balance because they genuinely believe that your rank matters in a game that is an unbalanced nightmare. If it's a party arena fighter, don't give incentive to win at all costs because people will pick broken characters. Genuinely as simple as that.

As for quality of life, I think crossplay isn't achievable with the set up they have here. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

A small couple of complaints I do have is how long it takes to get into any kind of unranked match. If you pick any kind of unranked match you'll be put into a lobby and you can never just find a match quickly for some reason yet ranked seems to be able to put you into a match instantly. Definitely some changes warranted there.

Controller bugs I do actually agree with. The amount of times I've input LT + A + A to do a dragon dash only to be met with a grab is actually frustrating sometimes. There's other little bits like the Y follow-ups blocking the Super moves if you're too quick about it as well. I just think it could use some tuning up.

Even if it's a party game, it's just not fun to play against someone using cheap spammable skills. Even if we aren't being sweaty. It sucks to have someone auto-vanish all your moves and get instant sparking to take off 2-3 of your heal bars.

Ranked isn't just for sweats, it matches you with someone of your skill level so you can have a good match and not pound some noob into the ground. Why complain about that?

How is this a fun party game?

[The Gray Fox]

Originally posted by BUNGO:

Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

I think they really hurt themselves by recreating a Budokai Tenkaichi game but also putting a ranked mode in there. Now we have all of these sweaty controller clingers complaining about balance because they genuinely believe that your rank matters in a game that is an unbalanced nightmare. If it's a party arena fighter, don't give incentive to win at all costs because people will pick broken characters. Genuinely as simple as that.

As for quality of life, I think crossplay isn't achievable with the set up they have here. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

A small couple of complaints I do have is how long it takes to get into any kind of unranked match. If you pick any kind of unranked match you'll be put into a lobby and you can never just find a match quickly for some reason yet ranked seems to be able to put you into a match instantly. Definitely some changes warranted there.

Controller bugs I do actually agree with. The amount of times I've input LT + A + A to do a dragon dash only to be met with a grab is actually frustrating sometimes. There's other little bits like the Y follow-ups blocking the Super moves if you're too quick about it as well. I just think it could use some tuning up.

Even if it's a party game, it's just not fun to play against someone using cheap spammable skills. Even if we aren't being sweaty. It sucks to have someone auto-vanish all your moves and get instant sparking to take off 2-3 of your heal bars.

Ranked isn't just for sweats, it matches you with someone of your skill level so you can have a good match and not pound some noob into the ground. Why complain about that?

How is this a fun party game?

exactly but again the fanboys will tell themselves anything to defend bad design of a genuine 6/10-7/10 fighting game

[Zabelfrie]

Originally posted by BUNGO:

Originally posted by Zabelfrie:

I think they really hurt themselves by recreating a Budokai Tenkaichi game but also putting a ranked mode in there. Now we have all of these sweaty controller clingers complaining about balance because they genuinely believe that your rank matters in a game that is an unbalanced nightmare. If it's a party arena fighter, don't give incentive to win at all costs because people will pick broken characters. Genuinely as simple as that.

As for quality of life, I think crossplay isn't achievable with the set up they have here. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

A small couple of complaints I do have is how long it takes to get into any kind of unranked match. If you pick any kind of unranked match you'll be put into a lobby and you can never just find a match quickly for some reason yet ranked seems to be able to put you into a match instantly. Definitely some changes warranted there.

Controller bugs I do actually agree with. The amount of times I've input LT + A + A to do a dragon dash only to be met with a grab is actually frustrating sometimes. There's other little bits like the Y follow-ups blocking the Super moves if you're too quick about it as well. I just think it could use some tuning up.

Even if it's a party game, it's just not fun to play against someone using cheap spammable skills. Even if we aren't being sweaty. It sucks to have someone auto-vanish all your moves and get instant sparking to take off 2-3 of your heal bars.

Ranked isn't just for sweats, it matches you with someone of your skill level so you can have a good match and not pound some noob into the ground. Why complain about that?

How is this a fun party game?

Oh no I totally agree with you, people do abuse the unbalanced characters in this game to knock out a cheap win and it's not fun to fight against them, but that motivation to use unbalanced characters in this game to knock out a cheap win comes from the baked-in notion that winning means anything in the game, which wasn't a problem in BT3 because no one had a rank. No one played BT3 for money or rank or anything like that.

Having a rank breeds incentive to win, and in a game like this winning means picking the broken characters. So now the devs have to make a choice as to whether they want to completely revamp this game so that it's nothing like BT3 or they need to never touch it again until people accept that this game is a mess and just play the meta in it, like MvC2 and 3.