This is the worst ONLINE fighting game ever

[[Sane]]

It's only about online and not single player content ect. (maybe a little)
Ban Rage quitters / Leavers instantly, no remorse. Playing for 1000h and only leave 2 times? doesn't matter, perma ban.

Sure, it's mostly made for absolute casuals, but then why add ranked at all? so unbalanced and that certain characters have a whole HP bar more or super armor. Yajirobi??? Hes been "nerfed" but lets be real, they should have just gave him 1 sensu bean per match but whatever. BT3 was also unbalanced but there was no online, only in the Wii version and the connection sucked.

No idea what it's called, "after image"? I'm not sure, but i only play against characters who have after image, of course you have to block or play with ki blasts, but it's still absolutely annoying and no fun.

One of the worst things in the game is "vanish war". if you do team battles then you almost can't finish a match because the time is running out. Time is running out because 80% of the entire match is just vanish, vanish, vanish and so on. The worst and most boring mechanic I've played in a fighting game. You vanish until someone no longer has any ki left. My idea here would be that after the 3rd vanish or so, it gets faster and faster until someone screws up, because at the moment it's absolutely boring to play and even more boring to watch, for example tournaments.

But the worst thing by far are the Players / Community.
How can it be that when you play ranked, 99% never accept a rematch, you want to learn how to play and get better, right? Not only that, but if I lose to someone and I rematch and than i start to win? They instantly ALT + F4.

I played Tekken 7 and 8 together for about 900h, Street Fighter 6 for 100h+, Grandblue vs for 30h and DB FighterZ for 400h+ and in all those hours combined I haven't seen Rage Quitter / Leaver as often as I did in Sparking Zero and I have only about 40 hours. Thats actually insaaaaaane.

I'd rather get kicked in the balls every day than play just one more SZ online match.

Now something about the single player.
For the most part I just think it's "good". Sure they could have done the story a bit better, but I think the difficulty is good the way it is. I think the what if's are neat and the self-created episodes are also good.

What I find very sad is that there are almost no costumes for characters. I don't count the "destroyed costumes" for goku and vegeta because for me it's not a real costume. They could have done so much more.
For Goku, for example, they could have made it so that all versions of Goku could all wear the same costumes. Imagine Goku-Ui with Yadrat costume. Fire.

Or the outfits goku and vegeta wore in the super broly movie, or even coloring our costumes how we like. This would be soooo good. Even if would only would have had alternative colors like in DB Figterz. Or Black Gohan costume. He is in the game so why not the costume for him? There are so many missed opportunities that the modders make with newly added costumes, which I really appreciate, but that's the job of the developers.

[Meteor]

I really feel like ranked was tacked on because they had to. They're never going to make this game fair and balanced because the game is based on the old BT series that was never fair and balanced. But people are going to cry about it anyway because it has a ranked mode, and because it has a ranked mode the game must be "fair" because competitive people need to "win" so that they can feel good about their ranking on a non competitive Dragon Ball Toybox game.

I do wonder how much less this game would have sold if they only focused on local multiplayer (with remote play) and single player content. Are we looking around 50% or less than 30%?

[The Gray Fox]

Първоначално публикувано от Meteor:

I really feel like ranked was tacked on because they had to. They're never going to make this game fair and balanced because the game is based on the old BT series that was never fair and balanced. But people are going to cry about it anyway because it has a ranked mode, and because it has a ranked mode the game must be "fair" because competitive people need to "win" so that they can feel good about their ranking on a non competitive Dragon Ball Toybox game.

I do wonder how much less this game would have sold if they only focused on local multiplayer (with remote play) and single player content. Are we looking around 50% or less than 30%?

It's 2024, game would've sold done terribly especially on PC without online

Also again the cope is getting silly at this point. This game is more unbalanced and even more poorly designed than past BT games, the game sucks online because its not designed well. The problem wouldn't disappear simply removing ranked mode.

[Abacus]

Първоначално публикувано от Meteor:

I really feel like ranked was tacked on because they had to. They're never going to make this game fair and balanced because the game is based on the old BT series that was never fair and balanced. But people are going to cry about it anyway because it has a ranked mode, and because it has a ranked mode the game must be "fair" because competitive people need to "win" so that they can feel good about their ranking on a non competitive Dragon Ball Toybox game.

I do wonder how much less this game would have sold if they only focused on local multiplayer (with remote play) and single player content. Are we looking around 50% or less than 30%?

The game would need online modes, no two way about it.

The bare-bones game-play based on cinematic looks over depth (like all Tenkaichi games) Would benefit from more casual modes though.

[Alastar]

Nach, when crybabies who cry about mechanics and cheese in ranked leave this game will be finally masterpiece. Ranked is meannothing in this game, as it should be unbalanced and casual, its budokai anyway so its good as it is now. I prefer small playrbase but players with brains, not crybabies. So please, quit this game faster who dont like it.

[Meteor]

Първоначално публикувано от The Gray Fox:

Първоначално публикувано от Meteor:

I really feel like ranked was tacked on because they had to. They're never going to make this game fair and balanced because the game is based on the old BT series that was never fair and balanced. But people are going to cry about it anyway because it has a ranked mode, and because it has a ranked mode the game must be "fair" because competitive people need to "win" so that they can feel good about their ranking on a non competitive Dragon Ball Toybox game.

I do wonder how much less this game would have sold if they only focused on local multiplayer (with remote play) and single player content. Are we looking around 50% or less than 30%?

It's 2024, game would've sold done terribly especially on PC without online

Also again the cope is getting silly at this point. This game is more unbalanced and even more poorly designed than past BT games, the game sucks online because its not designed well. The problem wouldn't disappear simply removing ranked mode.

Going to have to take your word on the design point. This is the first kind of these games where I went through the entire tutorial and actually got decent at it. Playing the older titles and even the Tenkaichi 4 mod before this released I always felt like I was floundering and mashing buttons to no avail.

[The Gray Fox]

Първоначално публикувано от Alastar:

Nach, when crybabies who cry about mechanics and cheese in ranked leave this game will be finally masterpiece. Ranked is meannothing in this game, as it should be unbalanced and casual, its budokai anyway so its good as it is now. I prefer small playrbase but players with brains, not crybabies. So please, quit this game faster who dont like it.

when they leave this game will be dead because its a clear 6/10 released with 15 hours of mediocre slideshows and a bad custom match maker for singleplayer content, bad local support, and a casual matchmaking system worse than its ranked mode.

the fact that a few fanboys willing to accept slop will remain won't sell future DLC

[kenshireando]

People saying that BT3 was better in terms of balance it's so funny. Yeah, sure, the game in which only 5 or a little more characters were viable.
The ranked mode it's balanced around the meta, the same way that BT3 was. You just need to pick the meta characters, as in any BT game. This look more like people crying because they can pick his favorite character; well, sorry to tell you this, but that never was possible in other iterations of the game.
Btw, i also play a lot of FG's, and i see RQ in everyone and very often

[Deaavh™]

Първоначално публикувано от Abacus:

"Why add ranked at all?"

Exactly, but they need to sale to the clout/Stream chasers, mainly for increased marketing.

They only chase clout in the game because they don't need to learn deep complex concepts. Rather grind the mashing, only using the meta. You simply just have to play all day.

Tenkaichi is only remembered in the way it was, because nobody made money by just playing and chasing clout in the way you can today. Extreme meta wasn't important to the average gamer in the past, before being a tuber was a thing.

I mean, gaming and anime/manga. Got REALLY popular and mainstream when people realized the can make money off of it. When the jock who would have made fun of gamer back in the day, suddenly has "always been a gamer. Subscribe and join."

I kind of feel this, but fighting games were always pretty competitive even before streaming and youtube. When I was a kid MK would become pretty competitive when playing with friends but it was in good fun, these days most people look up the best methods to be at the top of the leaderboard which speaking of, I remember a time when people laughed at leaderboards kind of like how people thought hiscores became a relic of arcade gaming. I just find it funny that so many people actually care about hiscores (leaderboard position in ranked) when you think about it.

[Alastar]

Първоначално публикувано от The Gray Fox:

Първоначално публикувано от Alastar:

Nach, when crybabies who cry about mechanics and cheese in ranked leave this game will be finally masterpiece. Ranked is meannothing in this game, as it should be unbalanced and casual, its budokai anyway so its good as it is now. I prefer small playrbase but players with brains, not crybabies. So please, quit this game faster who dont like it.

when they leave this game will be dead because its a clear 6/10 released with 15 hours of mediocre slideshows and a bad custom match maker for singleplayer content, bad local support, and a casual matchmaking system worse than its ranked mode.

the fact that a few fanboys willing to accept slop will remain won't sell future DLC

Its not MMO or FPS too be dead, man. xD It will not be dead as longa as ther eis several hundrets players, as it is normal for fighting genre.

[NeroTheAngel]

Първоначално публикувано от Sane:

Първоначално публикувано от NeroTheAngel:

Thats because it is NOT an online fighting game

Its an action multiplayer online 3D-Fighter or is it a dating sim mixed with darksouls elements? tf u mean its not and online fighting game

no its not Its an action 3D fighter game. Its main function is not online. Its not a Life Service game too if you thought that too. Its a single player fighting game with online function. you will not get many updates which balance the game, you will not recieve rewards at the end of a season (there is not even something like a season). The online function is just a secondary function. the main thing is the story mode and the local fighting against friends.

Sry to burst your bubble

[Hide]

Първоначално публикувано от NeroTheAngel:

Първоначално публикувано от Sane:

Its an action multiplayer online 3D-Fighter or is it a dating sim mixed with darksouls elements? tf u mean its not and online fighting game

no its not Its an action 3D fighter game. Its main function is not online

What will keep this game alive is the online bruh. How tf do you think Xenoverse and Fighterz are still alive after all this time?

[NeroTheAngel]

Първоначално публикувано от Hide:

Първоначално публикувано от NeroTheAngel:

no its not Its an action 3D fighter game. Its main function is not online

What will keep this game alive is the online bruh. How tf do you think Xenoverse and Fighterz are still alive after all this time?

Xenoverse and fighterz are indeed online games. But not every game has to be an online game or need to "kept alive" its just a game which was released. done. besides character DLCs this game will not recieve much support. Think about it like about Dragonball Z Kakarot.

[NNT Tsubajashi]

Първоначално публикувано от Abacus:

Първоначално публикувано от The Gray Fox:

The game is bad online because its poorly made and designed.

It is.

Also, online doesn't just mean ranked, they could focus on other concepts for modes. They could have modes that encourage a more casual approach the game is designed for.

Tenkaichi has always been meant for casual play, still uses one button to punch (like Fable 3, lol.)

I vastly preferred Budokai

they have. have you ever checked your menus?
there are ranked and player matches. if you dont like ranked in that game, play player matches. you have more options there. you can effectively bypass most of the issues talked about here when you play player matches.

[Nexus]

Първоначално публикувано от Sane:

It's only about online and not single player content ect. (maybe a little)
Ban Rage quitters / Leavers instantly, no remorse. Playing for 1000h and only leave 2 times? doesn't matter, perma ban.

Sure, it's mostly made for absolute casuals, but then why add ranked at all? so unbalanced and that certain characters have a whole HP bar more or super armor. Yajirobi??? Hes been "nerfed" but lets be real, they should have just gave him 1 sensu bean per match but whatever. BT3 was also unbalanced but there was no online, only in the Wii version and the connection sucked.

No idea what it's called, "after image"? I'm not sure, but i only play against characters who have after image, of course you have to block or play with ki blasts, but it's still absolutely annoying and no fun.

One of the worst things in the game is "vanish war". if you do team battles then you almost can't finish a match because the time is running out. Time is running out because 80% of the entire match is just vanish, vanish, vanish and so on. The worst and most boring mechanic I've played in a fighting game. You vanish until someone no longer has any ki left. My idea here would be that after the 3rd vanish or so, it gets faster and faster until someone screws up, because at the moment it's absolutely boring to play and even more boring to watch, for example tournaments.

But the worst thing by far are the Players / Community.
How can it be that when you play ranked, 99% never accept a rematch, you want to learn how to play and get better, right? Not only that, but if I lose to someone and I rematch and than i start to win? They instantly ALT + F4.

I played Tekken 7 and 8 together for about 900h, Street Fighter 6 for 100h+, Grandblue vs for 30h and DB FighterZ for 400h+ and in all those hours combined I haven't seen Rage Quitter / Leaver as often as I did in Sparking Zero and I have only about 40 hours. Thats actually insaaaaaane.

I'd rather get kicked in the balls every day than play just one more SZ online match.

Now something about the single player.
For the most part I just think it's "good". Sure they could have done the story a bit better, but I think the difficulty is good the way it is. I think the what if's are neat and the self-created episodes are also good.

What I find very sad is that there are almost no costumes for characters. I don't count the "destroyed costumes" for goku and vegeta because for me it's not a real costume. They could have done so much more.
For Goku, for example, they could have made it so that all versions of Goku could all wear the same costumes. Imagine Goku-Ui with Yadrat costume. Fire.

Or the outfits goku and vegeta wore in the super broly movie, or even coloring our costumes how we like. This would be soooo good. Even if would only would have had alternative colors like in DB Figterz. Or Black Gohan costume. He is in the game so why not the costume for him? There are so many missed opportunities that the modders make with newly added costumes, which I really appreciate, but that's the job of the developers.

Cool story bro *Boots up Sparking Zero*

[Syncroniam]

This game is only good if you make custom battles/mods endgame, not PvP.