Why is everyone so cracked at this game already?

[Beefsquatch436]

Like seriously it's super annoying, people play online like they're about to get paid big bucks to beat me.

CHILL

[SetSubarashii]

Let me guess, you're upset you can't sit and charge up all the way just to mash square auto combo and ultimate? Go play offline then. You're supposed to try and improve, that's the purpose with fighting.

[Umitencho]

Some people practised via ps2 emulators for BT3 so had like 90% of the skills they needed. Also, fighting game communities do be like that.

[Shady]

I kinda agree though, also.

Why are there C rankers that nail every defensive with 90%+ success? Even my point blank unblockable specials are getting teleported more often than not.

[PB&J]

I suggest watching some DB Sparking creators it's super insightful to see how they deal with certain situations. Focus on understanding defense and how to counter combos then try and focus on combos. The game is fun if you have the mindset of every experience is one to learn from! Play whoever you want it doesn't matter if you character is "cheap" or not meta you reach a point where your skill can outclass an uneven match up.

[Carpe Diem]

Originally posted by Beefsquatch436:

Like seriously it's super annoying, people play online like they're about to get paid big bucks to beat me.

CHILL

You nailed it. Wait for about less than a month, and then people will be tired of facing the same characters over and over.

That's when only the tryhards will stay behind. It's already happening.

[Nathair39]

Never played this series and I'm at 445/500 wins for the challenge. I've only played Mortal Kombat, and there was definitely a learning period.

[Nathair39]

Originally posted by PB&J:

I suggest watching some DB Sparking creators it's super insightful to see how they deal with certain situations. Focus on understanding defense and how to counter combos then try and focus on combos. The game is fun if you have the mindset of every experience is one to learn from! Play whoever you want it doesn't matter if you character is "cheap" or not meta you reach a point where your skill can outclass an uneven match up.

Exactly this. I destroy mfs with base form Kale all day. And then if I go berserker or fuse into Kefla, it's basically gg. Mulitplayer is where this game is gonna shine.

Only part "hard" about the story mode is some of the small time windows for alternate objectives and paths. Otherwise it's just a few combos and like 2 specials/ultimates per fight.

[女王 [Queen]]

Originally posted by PB&J:

I suggest watching some DB Sparking creators it's super insightful to see how they deal with certain situations. Focus on understanding defense and how to counter combos then try and focus on combos. The game is fun if you have the mindset of every experience is one to learn from! Play whoever you want it doesn't matter if you character is "cheap" or not meta you reach a point where your skill can outclass an uneven match up.

I will say this is kind of incorrect. There's a reason only a handful of the roster is used at certain levels and its because regardless of skill, you arent doing much against an afterimage ssj4 gogeta who can do said afterimage into any super he wants. Or a broly with hyper armor and an unblockable quick cast ult. Skill only goes so far, and eventually you will be forced to cave and use someone actually good. It doesn't help that the defense of this game is way too lenient and easy to pull off compared to BT3. So going on the offensive as a lesser character is guaranteed in higher levels to just put you in the worse situation.

[Beefsquatch436]

Originally posted by SetSubarashii:

Let me guess, you're upset you can't sit and charge up all the way just to mash square auto combo and ultimate? Go play offline then. You're supposed to try and improve, that's the purpose with fighting.

Yes actually, with games sucking as bad as they do lately I'd love to have some mindless Dragon Ball fun online with people. Is that so wrong? You can't improve in a sense with how unbalanced the game is, someone who is amazing will still get beat by a noob with cheese from time to time to improving is pointless.

[Kankaku]

Originally posted by SetSubarashii:

Let me guess, you're upset you can't sit and charge up all the way just to mash square auto combo and ultimate? Go play offline then. You're supposed to try and improve, that's the purpose with fighting.

Let me guess you cap your frames at 30 or under, use cheese characters, moves and stunlock opponents right?

The game has a hard skill cap. It's a party game.

[Baho]

Matches are 6 minutes. You basically cannot just combo straight anyone in ranked because there are 3-4 different ways to break the combo and just roll you (z counter, high speed evasion, perception, revenge counter). Blocking blocks 80% of all supers/Ults and blocking also doesn't cause chip damage. There are also skills that autododge for you. So what this means is you need to learn to run out the clock, use instant sparking skills + unblockable ults, and in DP battle always have 5 characters. It takes so long to run though them all when you can do the aformentioned combo breakers that you win tons of games just due to clock + having more characters.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Shady:

I kinda agree though, also.

Why are there C rankers that nail every defensive with 90%+ success? Even my point blank unblockable specials are getting teleported more often than not.

Auto guard assist will block more or less everything for you. Super counter can be spammed with a good success ratio. Vanish timings are the same no matter what character you're vanish timing on. So find one time, learn the muscle memory (Relatively easy process.) and last but not least, the perception button can be held down to negate all damage from the front that isn't a throw or a ki blast. Some of these cost 1 skill gauge, most don't.

Also, to answer why people teleport things? There is a youtube video or two, that taught people specifically how to teleport point blank moves. It's a pretty consistent rate to, around 90% success ratio (Made up number, but feels that way to me.) and can be utilized on moves that aren't done at close range with relatively high success ratios.

[GorishiDan]

this is normal for a fighting game, specially one as unbalanced and unpolished as this one where one portion of players have actual skills and will run laps around you with just about any character and the other portion are the cheesers.

even back in the arcade machine days people were cracked, manning the machine as if they're tryna break it but in reality they be pulling moves you never seen in your life

[Beefsquatch436]

Originally posted by mlanier131:

Matches are 6 minutes. You basically cannot just combo straight anyone in ranked because there are 3-4 different ways to break the combo and just roll you (z counter, high speed evasion, perception, revenge counter). Blocking blocks 80% of all supers/Ults and blocking also doesn't cause chip damage. There are also skills that autododge for you. So what this means is you need to learn to run out the clock, use instant sparking skills + unblockable ults, and in DP battle always have 5 characters. It takes so long to run though them all when you can do the aformentioned combo breakers that you win tons of games just due to clock + having more characters.

My problem with this is that I want to use the characters I like not the characters that have certain skills (afterimage,etc.) what's crazy is that I'm pretty consistent with the hardest counter in the game for some reason lol

[breast milk🥛]

Originally posted by 女王 Queen:

Originally posted by PB&J:

I suggest watching some DB Sparking creators it's super insightful to see how they deal with certain situations. Focus on understanding defense and how to counter combos then try and focus on combos. The game is fun if you have the mindset of every experience is one to learn from! Play whoever you want it doesn't matter if you character is "cheap" or not meta you reach a point where your skill can outclass an uneven match up.

I will say this is kind of incorrect. There's a reason only a handful of the roster is used at certain levels and its because regardless of skill, you arent doing much against an afterimage ssj4 gogeta who can do said afterimage into any super he wants. Or a broly with hyper armor and an unblockable quick cast ult. Skill only goes so far, and eventually you will be forced to cave and use someone actually good. It doesn't help that the defense of this game is way too lenient and easy to pull off compared to BT3. So going on the offensive as a lesser character is guaranteed in higher levels to just put you in the worse situation.

I kinda noticed this in a sense, I just had a armored Broly player, and he refused to engage, he just flew back and would do nothing unless I flew closer. And thew end result is either nothing happens or I'm constantly in a even more disadvantageous position, with a character that is weaker