Everyone should have the same health

[Kimarnic]

I don't wanna get my ass kicked by playing low tier characters like Goku GT and Pan while everyone plays Goku Instinct and Goku Bl***k with 5000 health bars and massive damage attacks

[Bitor Varbosa]

If you have been playing online you should know by now that the first character to get nerfed is Yajirobe
Mf had only 3 lifebars, no kiblasts whatsoever but was winning matches left and right because of his senzu beans.

Master Roshi is another bad boy that can't even get a green bar of health but is already a Meta character for costing only 2 DP while having Afterimage Strike and a absolutely sure fire special move.

Also, Destruction Points exist for that reason, if you pick Mastered Ultra Instinct, you already burned most of your DP, while the opponent will have the entirety of the Ginyu force to kick your ass.

If you want to play a balanced game, you have to turn on the DP setting, anything else is meant to be unbalanced especifically because Pan is not strong as MUI Goku

[Ziggy]

you said Goku GT is a joke character but not only does he have afterimage strike but he can also transform to ssj4 goku. He's a pretty decent character, Pan on the other hand is a lower DP character so you can't really expect that much. Would I run Goku GT in singles? idk depends if I can get the transformation out.

[Kimarnic]

Originally posted by Bitor Varbosa:

If you have been playing online you should know by now that the first character to get nerfed is Yajirobe
Mf had only 3 lifebars, no kiblasts whatsoever but was winning matches left and right because of his senzu beans.

Master Roshi is another bad boy that can't even get a green bar of health but is already a Meta character for costing only 2 DP while having Afterimage Strike and a absolutely sure fire special move.

Also, Destruction Points exist for that reason, if you pick Mastered Ultra Instinct, you already burned most of your DP, while the opponent will have the entirety of the Ginyu force to kick your ass.

If you want to play a balanced game, you have to turn on the DP setting, anything else is meant to be unbalanced especifically because Pan is not strong as MUI Goku

Isn't PD Team Battles? I play 1v1 and itemless

[Kimarnic]

Originally posted by Ziggy:

you said Goku GT is a joke character but not only does he have afterimage strike but he can also transform to ssj4 goku. He's a pretty decent character, Pan on the other hand is a lower DP character so you can't really expect that much. Would I run Goku GT in singles? idk depends if I can get the transformation out.

Transforming is lame, winning with base characters is based instead of cheesing online with UI Goku

[Alastar]

No they dont should. Budokai was always like this and should stay this way.
You dont like it? go play Xenoverse and complain there.

[loganjamesalex]

Pan has afterimage strike. . .

[Bitor Varbosa]

Originally posted by Kimarnic:

Isn't PD Team Battles? I play 1v1 and itemless

That's something else:

Team Battle = pick 5 characters without restrictions
DP Battle = 15 DP points to use in your team
Single Battle = 1 vs 1, no other restrictions

Mr. Satan = 1 DP
Whis = 10 DP

In fact, the main point of transformations (besides looking cool) is to use strong characters in DP Battles, base Goku GT is cheaper than the SSJ4 he can turn into.

My main team is
Master Roshi = 2 DP
Base Vegito = 7 DP
Base Kefla = 6 DP

Then, I transform them during the match and get absolute cost benefit.
That's the only way I play Ranked.

[Orcen]

"Everyone should have the same health"
-Krillin approves.

[Shady]

Originally posted by Bitor Varbosa:

Mf had only 3 lifebars, no kiblasts whatsoever but was winning matches left and right because of his senzu beans.

How is this still happening everywhere?!?

https://youtu.be/QKYuK0XwvwE?si=4DvIOgKnJjuFz864

Yajirobe had 4 health bars, not 3... and so on & so forth.

The blips next to your CURRENT ACTIVE health bar are your available STOCK of OTHER, EXTRA health bars. A character's total health bars are their stock plus their current active bar. I see people only count the stock ALL the time. Literally always. I haven't seen it correctly counted yet by anyone.

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by Bitor Varbosa:

Originally posted by Kimarnic:

Isn't PD Team Battles? I play 1v1 and itemless

That's something else:

Team Battle = pick 5 characters without restrictions
DP Battle = 15 DP points to use in your team
Single Battle = 1 vs 1, no other restrictions

Mr. Satan = 1 DP
Whis = 10 DP

In fact, the main point of transformations (besides looking cool) is to use strong characters in DP Battles, base Goku GT is cheaper than the SSJ4 he can turn into.

My main team is
Master Roshi = 2 DP
Base Vegito = 7 DP
Base Kefla = 6 DP

Then, I transform them during the match and get absolute cost benefit.
That's the only way I play Ranked.

Cracked team bruh, lol

[WeaponOfForms777]

What about goku gt in lore or the game makes him a joke character?

[Bitor Varbosa]

Originally posted by Shady:

Originally posted by Bitor Varbosa:

Mf had only 3 lifebars, no kiblasts whatsoever but was winning matches left and right because of his senzu beans.

The blips next to your CURRENT ACTIVE health bar are your available STOCK of OTHER, EXTRA health bars. A character's total health bars are their stock plus their current active bar. I see people only count the stock ALL the time. Literally always. I haven't seen it correctly counted yet by anyone.

Ok ok, sure, my comment was already complaining that he should get nerfed, and looks like he is getting nerfed right now, thankfully.

[nadata]

they should make it easier to have custom rules in quick, unranked matches, but I don't think the character filter even works in custom matches (disabled fusion characters for a random tournament, start match-- immediately see a fused kefla)

It would be fun to have an era or dp lock so I don't constantly get people that pick vegito blue when I pick jeice or something

[The Durp]

GT goku def ain't a low tier in my opinion and even then some characters like roshi and yajirobe now have less hp yet have really nice moves they can use to give them the edge in battle and they usually get faster stocks. If your main issue is health bars then simply just out damage them lmao since somehow I solo'd someone who was using UI goku that went MUI and a ultimate gohan with yajirobe and healing just once lmao

[Shady]

Originally posted by Bitor Varbosa:

Originally posted by Shady:

The blips next to your CURRENT ACTIVE health bar are your available STOCK of OTHER, EXTRA health bars. A character's total health bars are their stock plus their current active bar. I see people only count the stock ALL the time. Literally always. I haven't seen it correctly counted yet by anyone.

Ok ok, sure, my comment was already complaining that he should get nerfed, and looks like he is getting nerfed right now, thankfully.

Yeah, I know, and thank goodness for that. I think what they did will be a very sufficient nerf, too, so I'm quite happy with that. (If you actually steamroll a Yaji, he probably won't be able to Senzu now, whereas before, it was basically guaranteed.)

I just wanted to point out the health bar thing because I'm seeing it SO OFTEN, that it's starting to gaslight me into thinking I'm the one that's wrong, even though I'm provably correct lol. Just a "pet peeve" of mine.