Only kids play Ultra instinct Goku.

[Sharunas]

HEAR ME OUT...

Only 12 year old kids play Goku ultra instinct white hair form
They have NEVER seen original Z anime
They have NEVER heard Kikuchi score
They think super saiyan is suppose to have blue hair
They think ultra instinct is the most powerfull form

But we older dragon ball fans know that ssj4 Gogeta is stronger and we just laugh at them.
Have a great day ;).

[NeroTheAngel]

dude I agree with the fact that Goku UI ac a character in this game is not as strong as people think but saying Gogeta SSJ4 is the strongest is kind of something what a 12 year old kid would say. We cant really tell who is stronger since the powerscaling in GT and Super is way different.

[Plank]

Nuh uh, MY favourite character is the most powerful!

[Geralt]

Yajirobe's so strong, he's getting nerfed.

Your move.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Geralt:

Yajirobe's so strong, he's getting nerfed.

Your move.

its not yajirobe its the senzu beans they are just too much of a superfood. not even a legendary super saiyan broly can handle yajirobe on senzu.

[Ðëprávèd•Mïšçréånt]

Goku Z mid for life.
Then Super Vegeta

[Geralt]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by Geralt:

Yajirobe's so strong, he's getting nerfed.

Your move.

not even a legendary super saiyan broly can handle yajirobe

Facts.

[Sisyphus]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

You saying all that, but you sound like an immature child.

I love Ultra Instinct Goku.
I've listened to Kikuchi score while reading the manga.
No one thinks that, only Super Saiyan Blue has cyan hair.
Ultra Instict, Ultra Ego and Beast ARE most powerful forms tho. Imagine if Gogeta went Ultra Instinct lmao, it would be a lot stronger than SSJ4, that's for sure. Also SSJ4 can't be compared to canon forms because it's from a filler series.

Well i just consider original Z end the official dragon ball ending. even if Akira worked on super he did not write it entirely it was Toyotarous manga so every super transformation is just not canon to me and even if i watched the whole super anime i still hate it. i know GT is not canon too btw. But i did enjoy the 2 latest super movies, broly and super hero. Im 25 and i grew up watching Z on television and reading the dragon ball manga, all these super transformations are just stupid for me. there is also alot of youtube videos and forum threads about why super isnt really canon.

It is canon weather you like it or not tho, sure Toriyama wasn't involved like he was in the OG manga, but it is his script for the most part.

What about Berserk, the author died and his best friend continued his work, should they have just left it without an ending? It is still canon, even if the guy who created it died. It can never be the same but hey, we don't get a say in it.

Now that's a little different from Dragon Ball, since Dragon Ball finished back in 1995, Super is just a revival series, but he wrote it, at least the beginning arcs, then Toyotaro started implementing his own ideas. Now it's gonna be completely Toyotaro's but Toriyama chose him as his successor, that was the point of him mentoring him.

[Sisyphus]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

You saying all that, but you sound like an immature child.

I love Ultra Instinct Goku.
I've listened to Kikuchi score while reading the manga.
No one thinks that, only Super Saiyan Blue has cyan hair.
Ultra Instict, Ultra Ego and Beast ARE most powerful forms tho. Imagine if Gogeta went Ultra Instinct lmao, it would be a lot stronger than SSJ4, that's for sure. Also SSJ4 can't be compared to canon forms because it's from a filler series.

Well i just consider original Z end the official dragon ball ending. even if Akira worked on super he did not write it entirely it was Toyotarous manga so every super transformation is just not canon to me and even if i watched the whole super anime i still hate it. i know GT is not canon too btw. But i did enjoy the 2 latest super movies, broly and super hero. Im 25 and i grew up watching Z on television and reading the dragon ball manga, all these super transformations are just stupid for me. there is also alot of youtube videos and forum threads about why super isnt really canon.

Wait a minute, you mentioned SS4 Gogeta, Toriyama had nothing to do with GT, so why does GT get a pass but Super, which was written by Toriyama for the most part is getting spat on?

[NeroTheAngel]

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

Originally posted by Sharas:

Well i just consider original Z end the official dragon ball ending. even if Akira worked on super he did not write it entirely it was Toyotarous manga so every super transformation is just not canon to me and even if i watched the whole super anime i still hate it. i know GT is not canon too btw. But i did enjoy the 2 latest super movies, broly and super hero. Im 25 and i grew up watching Z on television and reading the dragon ball manga, all these super transformations are just stupid for me. there is also alot of youtube videos and forum threads about why super isnt really canon.

Wait a minute, you mentioned SS4 Gogeta, Toriyama had nothing to do with GT, so why does GT get a pass but Super, which was written by Toriyama for the most part is getting spat on?

Because the SSJ4 Form looks cool (I am not joking this is the whole reason)

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

Originally posted by Sharas:

Well i just consider original Z end the official dragon ball ending. even if Akira worked on super he did not write it entirely it was Toyotarous manga so every super transformation is just not canon to me and even if i watched the whole super anime i still hate it. i know GT is not canon too btw. But i did enjoy the 2 latest super movies, broly and super hero. Im 25 and i grew up watching Z on television and reading the dragon ball manga, all these super transformations are just stupid for me. there is also alot of youtube videos and forum threads about why super isnt really canon.

It is canon weather you like it or not tho, sure Toriyama wasn't involved like he was in the OG manga, but it is his script for the most part.

What about Berserk, the author died and his best friend continued his work, should they have just left it without an ending? It is still canon, even if the guy who created it died. It can never be the same but hey, we don't get a say in it.

Now that's a little different from Dragon Ball, since Dragon Ball finished back in 1995, Super is just a revival series, but he wrote it, at least the beginning arcs, then Toyotaro started implementing his own ideas. Now it's gonna be completely Toyotaro's but Toriyama chose him as his successor, that was the point of him mentoring him.

Not a very good successor who creates something as ugly as ultra ego vegeta that looks straight out of a fan made artwork. very misplaced transformation. i sure hope it never gets in to the game.

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

Originally posted by Sharas:

Well i just consider original Z end the official dragon ball ending. even if Akira worked on super he did not write it entirely it was Toyotarous manga so every super transformation is just not canon to me and even if i watched the whole super anime i still hate it. i know GT is not canon too btw. But i did enjoy the 2 latest super movies, broly and super hero. Im 25 and i grew up watching Z on television and reading the dragon ball manga, all these super transformations are just stupid for me. there is also alot of youtube videos and forum threads about why super isnt really canon.

Wait a minute, you mentioned SS4 Gogeta, Toriyama had nothing to do with GT, so why does GT get a pass but Super, which was written by Toriyama for the most part is getting spat on?

because GT aired not too long ago after Z ended and it still had the Z tone and artstyle. sure its not canon but i personally would consider gt more canon than super, super is just bad. The animation, the story, the villains. and not to mention what super has done with vegeta... in Z vegeta was a warrior, angry and filled with pride and in super he is a looser.

[Imposter]

Originally posted by Sharas:

Originally posted by Sisyphus:

Wait a minute, you mentioned SS4 Gogeta, Toriyama had nothing to do with GT, so why does GT get a pass but Super, which was written by Toriyama for the most part is getting spat on?

because GT aired not too long ago after Z ended and it still had the Z tone and artstyle. sure its not canon but i personally would consider gt more canon than super, super is just bad. The animation, the story, the villains. and not to mention what super has done with vegeta... in Z vegeta was a warrior, angry and filled with pride and in super he is a looser.

Except Toriyama said it IS canon.

[Meow]

IMO If Saiyans have exclusivity to Super Saiyan, Humans should have exclusivity to Ultra Beast, Beast and Ultra Instinct.

[Meow]

Originally posted by Sejbr:

Pan is annoying brat in GT and that's just fact.
In my opinion SSJ4 is just THE BEST transformation in dragon ball history.
Today we get SSJ with different color... wow, impressive...

God Goku and God Vegita have red hair because people liked SSJ4. Sayian Blue is just inverted 'God' color. L-A-M-E.

I agree seeing as Saiyans are interconnected lore wise with Apes, it would make sense for them to Slowly learn to incorporate that uncontrollable Ape power as they become more wise, experienced & Powerful. And SS4 does that, aesthetically too.

The whole, oh look it's still a normal looking saiyan with hair color change, is so mundane.
SS3 hair changes and So does SS4 but then all of a sudden they stop to changes? meh..

[Sharunas]

Originally posted by Imposter:

Originally posted by Sharas:

because GT aired not too long ago after Z ended and it still had the Z tone and artstyle. sure its not canon but i personally would consider gt more canon than super, super is just bad. The animation, the story, the villains. and not to mention what super has done with vegeta... in Z vegeta was a warrior, angry and filled with pride and in super he is a looser.

Except Toriyama said it IS canon.

source trust me bro...