Seasons Pass violates new Steam rule

[Wertologist]

Steam just released a new ruleset regarding Season Passes

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

The season pass for Sparking Zero does not do this. The first DLC is only described as "Gamma 1, Gamma 2, and More!". "More!" is not detailing what else is included. We can probably infer that at least Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo will be included, but we don't even know that for sure. Maybe Cell Max? We don't know though

This is a violation of Steam's new rule. You might try to argue that it predates the rule and should be exempt, but they are still selling it while the rule is in place. It just got put in today. They MUST include a proper detailed description of what the DLCs are actually bringing in or they are violating Steam's rules

Here is the full release of the new rules regarding Season Passes:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/seasonpass

[Revenant]

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Steam just released a new ruleset regarding Season Passes

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

The season pass for Sparking Zero does not do this. The first DLC is only described as "Gamma 1, Gamma 2, and More!". "More!" is not detailing what else is included. We can probably infer that at least Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo will be included, but we don't even know that for sure. Maybe Cell Max? We don't know though

This is a violation of Steam's new rule. You might try to argue that it predates the rule and should be exempt, but they are still selling it while the rule is in place. It just got put in today. They MUST include a proper detailed description of what the DLCs are actually bringing in or they are violating Steam's rules

i think if you have a link to show people in your original post, it would strengthen your post overall, i actually did not know this.

id suggest editing it and adding the link if you can find an official steam rule or a guide on how to get to that rule specifically.

[Wertologist]

Originally posted by Revenant:

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Steam just released a new ruleset regarding Season Passes

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

The season pass for Sparking Zero does not do this. The first DLC is only described as "Gamma 1, Gamma 2, and More!". "More!" is not detailing what else is included. We can probably infer that at least Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo will be included, but we don't even know that for sure. Maybe Cell Max? We don't know though

This is a violation of Steam's new rule. You might try to argue that it predates the rule and should be exempt, but they are still selling it while the rule is in place. It just got put in today. They MUST include a proper detailed description of what the DLCs are actually bringing in or they are violating Steam's rules

i think if you have a link to show people in your original post, it would strengthen your post overall, i actually did not know this.

id suggest editing it and adding the link if you can find an official steam rule or a guide on how to get to that rule specifically.

I edited it to put in the link to the rules

[[Tatsu]]

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Steam just released a new ruleset regarding Season Passes

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

The season pass for Sparking Zero does not do this. The first DLC is only described as "Gamma 1, Gamma 2, and More!". "More!" is not detailing what else is included. We can probably infer that at least Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo will be included, but we don't even know that for sure. Maybe Cell Max? We don't know though

This is a violation of Steam's new rule. You might try to argue that it predates the rule and should be exempt, but they are still selling it while the rule is in place. It just got put in today. They MUST include a proper detailed description of what the DLCs are actually bringing in or they are violating Steam's rules

Here is the full release of the new rules regarding Season Passes:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/seasonpass

I really hope its more than just characters like maybe a short single player episode and new stage too would be good to know thats why i have not bought it

[Revenant]

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Originally posted by Revenant:

i think if you have a link to show people in your original post, it would strengthen your post overall, i actually did not know this.

id suggest editing it and adding the link if you can find an official steam rule or a guide on how to get to that rule specifically.

I edited it to put in the link to the rules

I think it also violates this one aswell

"When a Season Pass DLC is in pre-purchase mode, you are not required to release at least one DLC in the Season Pass at the time it goes on sale (as you are usually required to do when you launch a Season Pass). However, when the game launches, you will need to release the Season Pass out of pre-purchase--this will entail releasing at least one of the DLCs included in the Season Pass."

Specifically when the game launches and your able to purchase a season pass its required to have content from one of the DLCs included.

It looks like they have violated a few rules.

[Wertologist]

Originally posted by Revenant:

Originally posted by Wertologist:

I edited it to put in the link to the rules

I think it also violates this one aswell

"When a Season Pass DLC is in pre-purchase mode, you are not required to release at least one DLC in the Season Pass at the time it goes on sale (as you are usually required to do when you launch a Season Pass). However, when the game launches, you will need to release the Season Pass out of pre-purchase--this will entail releasing at least one of the DLCs included in the Season Pass."

Specifically when the game launches and your able to purchase a season pass its required to have content from one of the DLCs included.

It looks like they have violated a few rules.

Hmm, it looks like it violates that one as well. Honestly, I hope they let that one get grandfathered in since if they released something now, it'd probably be missing a ton of content due to being rushed

[Yami Houkai]

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

This part are wrong though, based from the link you provided.
A basic description of the content that’s included in each DLC. For example, the first content release might be “The Glitterlands Expansion – New area to explore, two new weapons, and new enemies.” It’s not required for the DLC to have a final name at the launch of the Season Pass. The information about the content in the DLC doesn’t need to be detailed (simply “new weapons” or “two new weapons” is acceptable, they don’t have to list the exact weapons).
They clearly stated content doesn’t need to be detailed. Even if the description only said new character, it was still okay according to it.

This one
A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*
are in fact the only one that violates the rules.

[Wertologist]

Originally posted by Yami Houkai:

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Basically, the rule they broke is the one that states that a season pass MUST detail everything included

This part are wrong though, based from the link you provided.
A basic description of the content that’s included in each DLC. For example, the first content release might be “The Glitterlands Expansion – New area to explore, two new weapons, and new enemies.” It’s not required for the DLC to have a final name at the launch of the Season Pass. The information about the content in the DLC doesn’t need to be detailed (simply “new weapons” or “two new weapons” is acceptable, they don’t have to list the exact weapons).
They clearly stated content doesn’t need to be detailed. Even if the description only said new character, it was still okay according to it.

This one
A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*
are in fact the only one that violates the rules.

This is literally in the first section of the rules:
"If you aren't ready to clearly communicate about the content included in each DLC AND when each DLC will be ready for launch, you shouldn't offer a Season Pass on Steam."

[Yami Houkai]

Originally posted by Wertologist:

Originally posted by Yami Houkai:

This part are wrong though, based from the link you provided.
A basic description of the content that’s included in each DLC. For example, the first content release might be “The Glitterlands Expansion – New area to explore, two new weapons, and new enemies.” It’s not required for the DLC to have a final name at the launch of the Season Pass. The information about the content in the DLC doesn’t need to be detailed (simply “new weapons” or “two new weapons” is acceptable, they don’t have to list the exact weapons).
They clearly stated content doesn’t need to be detailed. Even if the description only said new character, it was still okay according to it.

This one
A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*
are in fact the only one that violates the rules.

This is literally in the first section of the rules:
"If you aren't ready to clearly communicate about the content included in each DLC AND when each DLC will be ready for launch, you shouldn't offer a Season Pass on Steam."

And the one i quotes are literally what written in there too. Go and read everything instead of reading the first part. Those clearly communicate doesn't equals need to be detailed. Literally they wrote all of this :
When a Season Pass is made available for purchase on Steam, it must include the following information:
1 A complete list of all DLC included in the Pass. (i.e. listing each of the four DLCs included in a Pass).
2 A basic description of the content that’s included in each DLC. For example, the first content release might be “The Glitterlands Expansion – New area to explore, two new weapons, and new enemies.” It’s not required for the DLC to have a final name at the launch of the Season Pass. The information about the content in the DLC doesn’t need to be detailed (simply “new weapons” or “two new weapons” is acceptable, they don’t have to list the exact weapons).
3 Expected release date for each DLC. Quarter and Year (i.e. January to March 2025) or Season/Year is acceptable. Of course, a date that’s more precise is also fine (i.e. June, 2025 or June 1st, 2025).
Sparking Zero doesn't violated all of those.
1. Sparking Zero did said all the DLC included.
2. Sparking Zero did gave the content of the DLC that doesn't need to be detailed, as in "new character".
3. Sparking Zero did gave all the expected released date for each DLC in the season pass description.

As I said before, the only part they violated was this
A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*
An additional rule beside those 3.

[neilencio]

Even if Sparking Zero's Season Pass isn't compliant with Steam's new Season Pass policies, they wouldn't be in any trouble because their "violation" happened at a time when the policy wasn't in place. And they're not the only ones in the same position. It would be a logistical nightmare for both Valve and the publishers if the policy is enforced retroactively.

Common sense says Valve just expects publishers to follow the new policy for their new Season Passes (besides, it no longer applies to old season passes anyway, because they've mostly either released all the content/info already or the publishers have already gone kaput.)

[xXULTRAXx]

The Season Pass includes DLC 1, 2 and 3. They made that very clear, since these DLC are yet to have a Steam page they aren't breaking any rules. They're literally telling you what it includes, it's up to you to see what these DLC have in their pages.

[Yami Houkai]

Originally posted by xXULTRAXx:

The Season Pass includes DLC 1, 2 and 3. They made that very clear, since these DLC are yet to have a Steam page they aren't breaking any rules. They're literally telling you what it includes, it's up to you to see what these DLC have in their pages.

The problem is, OP only read the introduction of "clearly communicate about the content included in each DLC", assuming it as it need to be detailed without bothering to read the actual detailed explanation about the rules. And trying to blamed the game season pass violates it, even thought in the rule detailed explanation have showed that the description doesn’t need to be detailed.

This guy who complaining about the game doesn't give a detailed description, didn't bother to read the detailed explanation about the rules itself. Oh, the irony.

[nukeman]

You can't just make up a rule and expect everyone to retroactively be in compliance with it. The agreement publishers signed has language that likely says starting 1/1/25 you have to disclose everything about your DLC or some legal nonsense. That being said, I do want to know every detail of the DLC for THIS game as soon as possible!

[Bulbasaur]

There is a video made by bellular -

link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpypPqZNxPA&ab_channel=BellularNews

This does look to apply to old releases..... SZ would fall in this category, but there is some leeway in it, so while they do violate the rules, there is some leeway taken off of them.

[lycceto]

They don't violate any rules. They have a basic description, they have estimated releases on the pass page, and they don't need to have DLC already available because the asterisk here:

A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*

Is for this: *with the exception of Season Passes included in a Pre-Purchase of a deluxe edition.

This doesn't violate any rules.

[Bulbasaur]

Originally posted by lycceto:

They don't violate any rules. They have a basic description, they have estimated releases on the pass page, and they don't need to have DLC already available because the asterisk here:

A Season Pass must include at least one released DLC when it is made available for purchase*

Is for this: *with the exception of Season Passes included in a Pre-Purchase of a deluxe edition.

This doesn't violate any rules.

Yeah it does, theres just alot of leeway when it comes to this.

However, when the game launches, you will need to release the Season Pass out of pre-purchase--this will entail releasing at least one of the DLCs included in the Season Pass."

you didn't read the entire thing.

let me be clear, im not saying crucify sparking zero for this, but i am saying based on steams new rule, they and many others are not fully complying with them. It would apply to older titles as seen in the video clearly explaining it.