The DB Super hate train is getting annoying

[Newgel]

I've been watching dragonball since the early 2000's and I agree that Super isn't nearly as peak as Z but it definitely has its moments. With enough sound design, animation and voice acting the game could improve the Super saga. In bt3 the fight where future trunks kills cell in the future felt way more epic than I remember it being on tv.

Nothing is being cut to make way for super. DB fans are complaining about more content, let that sink in.

[AgenteZastin]

The hate train, is because GT > Super and GT doesn't seem to be in the base game, but that's because a DLC of GT outsells any kind of DLC of Super, so that also proves GT > Super and Bandai knows it.
To be clear I'm not saying Super is Bad, just that is not as good as GT, at first I didn't like Super at all but Bit by bit I fell under its spell

[SpenserAtlas]

Originally posted by AgenteZastin:

The hate train, is because GT > Super and GT doesn't seem to be in the base game, but that's because a DLC of GT outsells any kind of DLC of Super, so that also proves GT > Super and Bandai knows it.
To be clear I'm not saying Super is Bad, just that is not as good as GT, at first I didn't like Super at all but Bit by bit I fell under its spell

As much as I like GT, Super is literally better than GT in every way EXCEPT transformations, literally the only good transformations were SSJG and MUI, SSJB and SSJBKaioken were underwhelming, but I understand opinions can be different.

[Vlady]

Originally posted by AgenteZastin:

To be clear I'm not saying Super is Bad

Even tho its objectively true xD

[boogiepop1989]

I have the right to have my own opinion, and that is that Super sucks and GT is good. I'm not offending anyone by saying so.

[AgenteZastin]

Originally posted by SpenserAtlas:

Super is literally better than GT in every way EXCEPT transformations

How? In my opinion GT wins even in the Soundtracks

[ShANk117]

Originally posted by AgenteZastin:

The hate train, is because GT > Super and GT doesn't seem to be in the base game, but that's because a DLC of GT outsells any kind of DLC of Super, so that also proves GT > Super and Bandai knows it.
To be clear I'm not saying Super is Bad, just that is not as good as GT, at first I didn't like Super at all but Bit by bit I fell under its spell

GT is cringe. Super, while not great, is miles better than GT ever was.

[AgenteZastin]

Originally posted by ShANk117:

GT is cringe. Super, while not great, is miles better than GT ever was.

Why is it cringe? Because of GT Goku behaving like a kid when he "actually is" a kid? At least he behaves like Z Goku when he is in SSJ4. But in Super, he behives like an abnormal kid being an adult, and maybe you could find it cringe, but as I found cringe Dragon Ball Super as well, then we are back in the beginning. Still not a good reason to say it is miles better.

[Theseus]

If we are talking about the Super anime, it's absolute garbage. Now if we're talking about the manga it's ok and all the arcs in the manga are way better than their anime counterparts (especially the Future Trunks Saga). The only watchable arcs in GT are the Baby Saga and The Shadow Dragon Saga. Other than that, GT is also terrible. I know everyone loves SSJ4, I personally think it's overrated and only looks decent on Goku (Vegeta looks horrible in SSJ4). GT had some great ideas but poor execution. Personally, I wish neither existed and Dragon Ball just remained and ended with Z.

[SadPlatty©]

>The arc she tells you not to worry about
https://youtu.be/MwoaTeGSlLg?t=1

>You
https://youtu.be/pMyviOQnDBY

I love 'em both tbh - both have moments, but both have down-sides too

[AgenteZastin]

Originally posted by John Carter:

If we are talking about the Super anime, it's absolute garbage. Now if we're talking about the manga it's ok and all the arcs in the manga are way better than their anime counterparts (especially the Future Trunks Saga). The only watchable arcs in GT are the Baby Saga and The Shadow Dragon Saga. Other than that, GT is also terrible. I know everyone loves SSJ4, I personally think it's overrated and only looks decent on Goku (Vegeta looks horrible in SSJ4). GT had some great ideas but poor execution. Personally, I wish neither existed and Dragon Ball just remained and ended with Z.

But what makes you think GT is bad? What is the bad thing? 
What do you mean by bad execution?
The first arc cannot be compared to Z or Super but OG since it's an adventure arc. 
They are just looking for the dragon balls, what is bad about that?

[Theseus]

I won't write out a big long essay as to why I think GT is bad. Instead, I'll just layout a lot of the major reasons as to why I dislike it. P.S I have nothing against you or anyone else liking GT. There are some great things about GT. The series as a whole though I just don't like.

1. Everyone but Goku is irrelevant

2. Pan and guru were annoying and unlikable.

3. Turning Goku into a kid again was dumb and unnecessary (Yes even knowing why the creators wanted to do it.)

4. All the arcs leading up to the Baby Saga are boring and uninteresting with some of the most forgettable and terrible villains in DB.

5. Vegeta is used as a plot device for Baby and Fusion.

6. The Super 17 arc is one of the worst arcs I have ever seen in an anime.

7. The animation was terrible with lots of reuse and stiff animation. (Though to be fair the OG Z also had bad animation at times.)

8. Syn Shenron is one of the most generic and boring final bosses.

[AgenteZastin]

Originally posted by John Carter:

I won't write out a big long essay as to why I think GT is bad. Instead, I'll just layout a lot of the major reasons as to why I dislike it. P.S I have nothing against you or anyone else liking GT. There are some great things about GT. The series as a whole though I just don't like.

1. Everyone but Goku is irrelevant

2. Pan and guru were annoying and unlikable.

3. Turning Goku into a kid again was dumb and unnecessary (Yes even knowing why the creators wanted to do it.)

4. All the arcs leading up to the Baby Saga are boring and uninteresting with some of the most forgettable and terrible villains in DB.

5. Vegeta is used as a plot device for Baby and Fusion.

6. The Super 17 arc is one of the worst arcs I have ever seen in an anime.

7. The animation was terrible with lots of reuse and stiff animation. (Though to be fair the OG Z also had bad animation at times.)

8. Syn Shenron is one of the most generic and boring final bosses.

1. Goku is the chosen one to become SSJ God, he took 95% of the fight with golden frieza, and when Vegeta comes to fight, he ends up dying because frieza destroys earth. The unique good fight of U6 vs. U7 was Goku vs. Hit, Vegeta vs. Cabba, Frost, and Auta Magetta were boring, also, Hit humiliates Vegeta. We've got Black Goku, not Black Vegeta. In T.O.P., he gets SSGSS Evolved to equal SSGSSKx10 to get surpassed again by UI. Then he gets Ultra Ego, to get surpassed by True UI.

2. I completely disagree

3. Tell that to DAIMA

4. The first one is just gathering dragon balls like the OG, so you must not like the OG either. Baby is one of the good ones, with the SSJ4 introduction, and Baby Vegeta is a kind of Black Goku, but better. Shadow Dragons is the other good one, with the SSJ4 Dragon Fist, Gogeta SSJ4, and Super Ultra Spirit Bomb.

5. Better than always getting humiliated and surpassed

6. Resurrection ‘F’ is 10 times worse. I understand that the fusion of 2 A17 shouldn't be that powerful, but frieza training 4 months almost surpassed 10 years of Goku and Vegetas training.

7. Super also gets stiff at times, but at least GT has the classic drawing style, the one that has Super looks incomplete.

8. Jiren gives me the same feeling, like he is just the guy Goku fights in T.O.P. to get UI. And no one cares anything about pride troopers.

[Theseus]

I don't think you read my first response where I said that the Super anime was also garbage. Whereas the manga is just ok (even then I wouldn't say it's good). I also could easily write an essay about all the problems I have with Super as well. I love OG Dragon Ball. Let's not even pretend that the Black Star Dragon Ball arc is even remotely on the level of The Tournament Arc, Red Ribbon Army Arc, King Piccolo Arc, and Majunior Arc. Or that any of the garbage villains are even remotely on the level of the likes of Tao Pai Pai, General Blue, Demon King Piccolo, and Majunior.