Marauders

Marauders

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Hazard Dec 5, 2024 @ 6:15am
Abandoned by devs?
Keep seeing all these reviews, is that really the case?
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Macdallan Dec 5, 2024 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Hazard:
Keep seeing all these reviews, is that really the case?

No, those reviews are not true. Some players recently review bombed the game with negative reviews and wrote things like that because updates are taking a while to come out and the team hasn't been communicating much lately. They're upset, lashing out, and trying to harm the game and/or the developers for some reason.

It's happened with this game before so some of those reviews might be older. There seems to be a small group of people who have some kind of vendetta against the game and the people trying to make it. Read through the forums a bit and you'll see what I mean.

There are reasons for the slower pace of development that may also be linked to why communication has been minimal. There was a lawsuit between the developer (Small Impact Games) and publisher (Team17) that has since been resolved but the players don't know much about that.

Team17 made major changes recently and there were industry wide changes in the last year or so, both of those things affected development.

SIG is a very small development team and this is a very ambitious project that sold a lot more units than expected, the larger than expected influx of players even caused some issues. The core team was initially only three people coding and a couple artists with some other support staff like community managers and QA testers and the team hasn't grown much since that time, they added a couple more people including one more coder. There's an interview on YouTube with Cameron Small, one of the lead developers, where he talks about the impact of the sales numbers and what they actually expected.
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Hazard Dec 5, 2024 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Macdallan:
Originally posted by Hazard:
Keep seeing all these reviews, is that really the case?

No, those reviews are not true. Some players recently review bombed the game with negative reviews and wrote things like that because updates are taking a while to come out and the team hasn't been communicating much lately. They're upset, lashing out, and trying to harm the game and/or the developers for some reason.

It's happened with this game before so some of those reviews might be older. There seems to be a small group of people who have some kind of vendetta against the game and the people trying to make it. Read through the forums a bit and you'll see what I mean.

There are reasons for the slower pace of development that may also be linked to why communication has been minimal. There was a lawsuit between the developer (Small Impact Games) and publisher (Team17) that has since been resolved but the players don't know much about that.

Team17 made major changes recently and there were industry wide changes in the last year or so, both of those things affected development.

SIG is a very small development team and this is a very ambitious project that sold a lot more units than expected, the larger than expected influx of players even caused some issues. The core team was initially only three people coding and a couple artists with some other support staff like community managers and QA testers and the team hasn't grown much since that time, they added a couple more people including one more coder. There's an interview on YouTube with Cameron Small, one of the lead developers, where he talks about the impact of the sales numbers and what they actually expected.

TY for info. So although game not "abandoned" deffo sounds like there are some external factors that are going to continue to really effect this game

Shame really. Playing Delta Force kinda makes me want to play marauders again cos it feels better as extraction game imo

Sigh, il just wait on arc raiders to save me I guess
Macdallan Dec 5, 2024 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by BLK Telu:
Don't listen to Mac, he is posting dumb stuff.

For the truth, another guy explained the state of marauders nicely. He said than the devs are still pushing upgrade into the game. But they didn't tried to fix the core issues of Marauders. I will not go in detail into it but the community is expecting some upgrade and features who are still not here, like a rework of the space opera/system and stuff like that.

I would not say than the game is dead but there is not much people who still playing it. Just look at steam charts on steam db, you will understand pretty quickly the issue.

So, not abandoned. Maybe dead, maybe not dead. Like Schrödinger's cat.

Yes, the other guy (BatarianSOF) did explain what he spoke about very well but he did not say that the developers did not try to fix some of the core issues, he said only that Retribution didn't deliver on some of the things players had requested. Remember - I was involved in that thread, too. Here's the post:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1789480/discussions/0/4635988779091445737/?ctp=2#c4635988976587551754

What he said was, "A big part of the Marauders community wants big meaningful changes like a rework of space combat, overhaul of the progression systems and more QoL. And Retribution simply did not deliver that."

That statement does not mean the developers won't try to fix issues or didn't try to fix issues, only that those things he mentioned weren't addressed in the Retribution update - but they will be. For example we've been told that a rework of space combat is coming and that's one of the big things people have been requesting. BatarianSOF will also tell you the same thing so if you don't want to believe me then go ahead and ask him.

Looking at the charts on the SteamDB or Steam Charts website absolutely will not help anyone understand any of the issues, all it shows are player count related details.

You think it's maybe dead, maybe not dead? Nope. It is definitely not dead.

Why?

For about the 100th time on this forum I'm going to say this and I shouldn't have to because it's just common sense but here we go again - the game won't be dead until development stops, people aren't playing it at all, and the servers go offline. Currently development is ongoing, people are playing, and the servers are online therefore the game is not dead.
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BatarianSoF Dec 5, 2024 @ 11:19am 
One of the devs just said today on the discord that the next update is coming and that it "should be quite sizable".
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Macdallan Dec 5, 2024 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by BatarianSoF:
One of the devs just said today on the discord that the next update is coming and that it "should be quite sizable".

I would imagine it will be. They've probably been working really hard after managing all the "speed bumps" that they had to deal with behind the scenes.
Last edited by Macdallan; Dec 5, 2024 @ 11:26am
METTCtheDoc Dec 5, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Hazard:
Keep seeing all these reviews, is that really the case?
It hasn't been at all Hazard, its still in development. Currently there is a Game Industry apocolypse going and the guys are figuring out the best way to go. there has been too much put into the game to leave now, and there are some long term plans for Marauders!
Djang0 Dec 6, 2024 @ 1:50am 
Any news for an update ?
Hazard Dec 6, 2024 @ 2:34am 
Originally posted by METTCtheDoc:
Originally posted by Hazard:
Keep seeing all these reviews, is that really the case?
It hasn't been at all Hazard, its still in development. Currently there is a Game Industry apocolypse going and the guys are figuring out the best way to go. there has been too much put into the game to leave now, and there are some long term plans for Marauders!

Hope so!
[SIG]Aphrodite  [developer] Dec 6, 2024 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by Djang0:
Any news for an update ?

Hi! We haven't received any news about the update, and we are really hoping to hear some good news soon.
GBSASJOJO Dec 7, 2024 @ 6:30am 
It is just spoilt brats, who review bomb games, despite the game saying in big letters "EARLY ACCESS"....
As said above, game is still being worked on in a studio with devs. Legal ♥♥♥♥ has slowed down the output and silenced the update info, for now.
Landfall Menace Dec 7, 2024 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by BLK Telu:
Censorship is back in the game apparently.

They deleted my message too dont worry :lunar2019laughingpig:
Gatt zulu Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
buying this game at this point would be a big waste of money and would be a scam on yourself.
Macdallan Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Gatt zulu:
buying this game at this point would be a big waste of money and would be a scam on yourself.

Well, early access isn't for everyone but it's certainly not a "scam on yourself" if you choose to support games that are in early access. Make informed decisions based on facts and you'll be fine.
Landfall Menace Dec 7, 2024 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by BLK Telu:
Originally posted by Landfall Menace:

They deleted my message too dont worry :lunar2019laughingpig:

Yeah, i know.

if they put the same effort into the actual game instead of policing the forums and discord we'd have a tarkov competitor by now :steamhappy:
Macdallan Dec 7, 2024 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Landfall Menace:
Originally posted by BLK Telu:

Yeah, i know.

if they put the same effort into the actual game instead of policing the forums and discord we'd have a tarkov competitor by now :steamhappy:

1. Steam moderators exist.

2. The developers that are actively working on the game do not police these forums or Discord. They have hired community staff members to do that for them.

3. We have a Tarkov competitor now but it's in development. Patience. It'll get there.

Originally posted by BLK Telu:

So TRVE.

Nope. See above.
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