How are you supposed to win 1v3 or 1v4

[Big Dog]

This just happened to me 3 times in a row.

Come across a group of 3 or 4. Mag dump and kill 2, am lit up and need to reload, sprint my max stamina away, while the last guy(s) just sprint after me knowing I am low hp and need to reload and end up killing me when I eventually need to turn around with my low hp.

[Big Dog]

Theorycrafting: what is better than 1 mat-49? 2 mat-49's. Testing now.

[Macdallan]

You aren't necessarily supposed to win in a 1v3 or 1v4, ideally you return fire, reposition, and survive the encounter. If you live - you win. Unlike some other games the goal isn't necessarily to always kill every player you run across.

[Big Dog]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

You aren't necessarily supposed to win in a 1v3 or 1v4, ideally you return fire, reposition, and survive the encounter. If you live - you win. Unlike some other games the goal isn't necessarily to always kill every player you run across.

but i want the guys i killed loot

[Sabaton]

i always play alone so i can feel with you.

the best advice that i can give you is to take good cover and options to flee and to hide (know your area). use the ingame voice that to lie about your group strength, equipment and your loot. throwing a grenade also makes impressions :D show them, thats not worth to fight you. be a nasty cockroach.
"spice" helps alot when you know, that you need to escape. you dont lose stamina for a long time.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by High Stakes:

Originally posted by Macdallan:

You aren't necessarily supposed to win in a 1v3 or 1v4, ideally you return fire, reposition, and survive the encounter. If you live - you win. Unlike some other games the goal isn't necessarily to always kill every player you run across.

but i want the guys i killed loot

I'm sure you do but the loot isn't necessarily all that important. Every map has plenty of loot. Usually the better option for most of us is to survive the fight and loot elsewhere. We can always circle back to the defeated players later and pick up what their team couldn't carry. If you're trying to gain levels it's also generally better to survive the match so you can earn the double XP bonus.

[this is peak form]

shoot them first. i win 100% fights where i shoot them, and i lose 100% of the ones that i dont shoot them.
sounds simple i know. but standing still and missing shots are dead givaways you aren't winning.

[this is peak form]

also take 2 of the same gun, mac 10 sheds

[METTCtheDoc]

Originally posted by skycrown:

also take 2 of the same gun, mac 10 sheds

so far ;) KIDDING kidding, it will remain viable

[Big Dog]

Originally posted by skycrown:

also take 2 of the same gun, mac 10 sheds

Yes I started doing the 2 gun thing and it works way better than I thought. You mag dump the first gun, most people will auto-assume you are reloading and rush you, not expecting you to have another fully loaded gun that you can peak and light them up with.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by High Stakes:

Originally posted by skycrown:

also take 2 of the same gun, mac 10 sheds

Yes I started doing the 2 gun thing and it works way better than I thought. You mag dump the first gun, most people will auto-assume you are reloading and rush you, not expecting you to have another fully loaded gun that you can peak and light them up with.

I think quite a few players will bring a pair of PPSH SMGs with drum mags when they plan to PVP in close quarters (boarding). Being able to fire over 100 rounds before you need to reload can provide a pretty good advantage in many situations.

[Lt.Dan]

Originally posted by High Stakes:

This just happened to me 3 times in a row.

Come across a group of 3 or 4. Mag dump and kill 2, am lit up and need to reload, sprint my max stamina away, while the last guy(s) just sprint after me knowing I am low hp and need to reload and end up killing me when I eventually need to turn around with my low hp.

personally I will open up my tab to heal rq then keep shooting/pre firing the last guy then i run 2 guns so i switch an then heal again i don't run away much instead I will reposition somewhere near where I was an keep fighting with low health usually it becomes a 50/50 chance of living if my health is low

[Neko]

Most of the time it's just getting lucky. And before anyone says "Nooo! Just play smarter and do your corners and isolate your 1v1s. Play optimally" You would A) Have to fight multiple 1v1s and not lose a single one of them, which is a disadvantage still. And B) Nothing prevents the enemy squad from also playing "optimally" and sticking together or coordinating to shoot you from two angles at the same time. 1vX situations will always have you at a numbers disadvantage. So you either face them with confidence in your gameplay and hope they're not the same/better, or just run away and hope they don't follow you. Nothing wrong with disengaging if you're at a disadvantage. If you pick one off, the body will still be there later and most of the time they can't get everything out. Overall it's luck. You can "play better" to somewhat influence the odds, but in the end it's you against multiple. And since not every player is equal is skill/gamesense/gear, there is no way to really have a "fair" fight most of the time. You sometimes shred a team of 3 who aren't playing with sound on, other times you get peeked and prefired from 3 doorways simultaneously. You aren't really "supposed" to win 1v3s or 1v4s you are "supposed" to bring buddies with you to balance the numbers.

[KilledJoy]

Originally posted by High Stakes:

This just happened to me 3 times in a row.

Come across a group of 3 or 4. Mag dump and kill 2, am lit up and need to reload, sprint my max stamina away, while the last guy(s) just sprint after me knowing I am low hp and need to reload and end up killing me when I eventually need to turn around with my low hp.

You can try getting what we like to call "gud"

or just listen more, you hear lots of movement in a area better to move away quietly and quickly. Most times I will hear other players long before they see me there are plenty of corners and footsteps are loud. Name of the game is loot and extract unless you are doing contracts nothing about it says dive head on into other players unless you are greedy...

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

Originally posted by High Stakes:

This just happened to me 3 times in a row.

Come across a group of 3 or 4. Mag dump and kill 2, am lit up and need to reload, sprint my max stamina away, while the last guy(s) just sprint after me knowing I am low hp and need to reload and end up killing me when I eventually need to turn around with my low hp.

You can try getting what we like to call "gud"

or just listen more, you hear lots of movement in a area better to move away quietly and quickly. Most times I will hear other players long before they see me there are plenty of corners and footsteps are loud. Name of the game is loot and extract unless you are doing contracts nothing about it says dive head on into other players unless you are greedy...

Absolutely. Listen carefully and make good choices.

[Hydraxonra]

Originally posted by Sabaton:

i always play alone so i can feel with you.

the best advice that i can give you is to take good cover and options to flee and to hide (know your area). use the ingame voice that to lie about your group strength, equipment and your loot. throwing a grenade also makes impressions :D show them, thats not worth to fight you. be a nasty cockroach.
"spice" helps alot when you know, that you need to escape. you dont lose stamina for a long time.

Idk which peps you run into but when i run into a squad, i'm mostly killed instantly anyway because they know where i am, they have wh and aimbot and just run through the map killing everyone.

Otherwise i kill them all anyway. I don't know how the ♥♥♥♥ they can just run to you whereas they don't know if you are alone or not... Except WH. And most of the time they just don't care, run to you straight and fight.

I saw some team gettin a turn over when i push them to switch and heal. But like 9/10 teamfight they just run on me without any corner check or what. Just report them and cya.