I would like to congratulate everyone involved with the wipe idea.

[GAALVIM]

I would like to congratulate everyone involved with the wipe idea.

the game died thanks to the brilliant idea of ​​releasing it on steam as early access,
no release date and with wipes on major updates.

CONGRATULATIONS

[Rambo]

waiting the defense of Mr. Mac fanboy, the paladin of the devs. in fact, the day of the wipe had an all-time low of players, but if the devs don't understand it...... https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480#6m

[Pentagrama]

I stopped playing this game after that...

Unfortunately the game is still very raw... it doesn't have many things like tarkov itself. Even other copies of the game have more things... this game is not worth R$ 109.00 (5x more than the dollar). I would rather have saved that money and bought the tarkov.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Rambo:

waiting the defense of Mr. Mac fanboy, the paladin of the devs. in fact, the day of the wipe had an all-time low of players, but if the devs don't understand it...... https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480#6m

Hopefully I did not keep you waiting for very long, mate.

If you look at the actual numbers you'll see that post wipe the player counts actually went back up and stayed there but who am I to point out actual facts, right? Oh, right, I'm Mr. Mac fanboy, the Paladin of the Developers, that's who! Time to get to work.

Let's be slightly more specific than the claim that the day of the wipe had an "all time low" and consider the fact that when major updates happen it takes time to update not only the servers, but each player as well. It doesn't happen in the blink of an eye, so consider that when you think about situations like this and claims like Rambo has made.

The peak hourly player counts over the days leading up to the wipe were 936, 852, 768 and those are probably low due to the pending wipe. I know several players who stopped playing for a couple days for exactly that reason. Right after the wipe? 1570, then the next day was 1840. Where could anyone ever get the idea that the player count on the day of the wipe was at an all time low if they actually looked at the numbers? Yes, anyone can go look at the numbers and see that it's not true. Keep in mind that, these are just the peak player numbers, but you can get an overall idea of what the actual daily count was like from these.

Also, the wipe was mid December, we're now late January. Steamcharts reports an increase of +45.67% Marauders players in the past 30 days.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480

A few days pre-wipe the hourly max unique player count got under 800. A few days after? more than double. Peak player counts have been in the 1755 to 3150 range since then. If the wipe was such a bad thing then wouldn't the numbers have dropped below 800 and kept going down? Yes, but they did not. If you do not believe me please go look at the Steamdb info in the following link:

https://steamdb.info/app/1789480/charts/

One final thing - the wipe was only necessary due to certain changes that were made. The developers are going to try to avoid wiping unless changes during major updates require a wipe and they do not plan to have any forced wipes after the game is no longer in early access. This is explained clearly on the Steam store page so if you didn't read the early access box and did not know that then it's on you, not the developers.

[Rambo]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by Rambo:

waiting the defense of Mr. Mac fanboy, the paladin of the devs. in fact, the day of the wipe had an all-time low of players, but if the devs don't understand it...... https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480#6m

Hopefully I did not keep you waiting for very long, mate.

If you look at the actual numbers you'll see that post wipe the player counts actually went back up and stayed there but who am I to point out actual facts, right? Oh, right, I'm Mr. Mac fanboy, the Paladin of the Developers, that's who! Time to get to work.

Let's be slightly more specific than the claim that the day of the wipe had an "all time low" and consider the fact that when major updates happen it takes time to update not only the servers, but each player as well. It doesn't happen in the blink of an eye, so consider that when you think about situations like this and claims like Rambo has made.

The peak hourly player counts over the days leading up to the wipe were 936, 852, 768 and those are probably low due to the pending wipe. I know several players who stopped playing for a couple days for exactly that reason. Right after the wipe? 1570, then the next day was 1840. Where could anyone ever get the idea that the player count on the day of the wipe was at an all time low if they actually looked at the numbers? Yes, anyone can go look at the numbers and see that it's not true. Keep in mind that, these are just the peak player numbers, but you can get an overall idea of what the actual daily count was like from these.

Also, the wipe was mid December, we're now late January. Steamcharts reports an increase of +45.67% Marauders players in the past 30 days.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480

A few days pre-wipe the hourly max unique player count got under 800. A few days after? more than double. Peak player counts have been in the 1755 to 3150 range since then. If the wipe was such a bad thing then wouldn't the numbers have dropped below 800 and kept going down? Yes, but they did not. If you do not believe me please go look at the Steamdb info in the following link:

https://steamdb.info/app/1789480/charts/

One final thing - the wipe was only necessary due to certain changes that were made. The developers are going to try to avoid wiping unless changes during major updates require a wipe and they do not plan to have any forced wipes after the game is no longer in early access. This is explained clearly on the Steam store page so if you didn't read the early access box and did not know that then it's on you, not the developers.

thanks friend Mac for the always optimistic explanation even if I don't agree with it, but time will tell the truth. for the statistics you didn't mention that the game was also on sale ...... let's be honest ..... greetings

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Rambo:

thanks friend Mac for the always optimistic explanation even if I don't agree with it, but time will tell the truth. for the statistics you didn't mention that the game was also on sale ...... let's be honest ..... greetings

The 10% discount started on Dec. 22, 2022, which was about a week after the update landed. Yes, that's right, the discount did not affect the numbers during the first week after the wipe so it's just more proof that the game bounced back post wipe and did not experience a drop in numbers as you claimed. The sale lasted until January 5, 2023 and could definitely account for some of the numbers during that period of time, and beyond. Sales tend to do that for most games.

The holiday probably have some effect as well. More people would have been off work for a few extra days so that could boost the numbers a bit, but those numbers have not dropped back down to to the levels where they were just before the wipe. That says something, too.

Rambo, I really appreciate this kind of response because you were polite and stated your point. I know you don't agree on every point I'm making but you simply can't argue with the numbers, or the facts. What you said about the wipe numbers is just not accurate nor does it mean anything in the long term.

[gordon519]

wow......for once an actually civil discussion on this topic

[Rambo]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by Rambo:

thanks friend Mac for the always optimistic explanation even if I don't agree with it, but time will tell the truth. for the statistics you didn't mention that the game was also on sale ...... let's be honest ..... greetings

The 10% discount started on Dec. 22, 2022, which was about a week after the update landed. Yes, that's right, the discount did not affect the numbers during the first week after the wipe so it's just more proof that the game bounced back post wipe and did not experience a drop in numbers as you claimed. The sale lasted until January 5, 2023 and could definitely account for some of the numbers during that period of time, and beyond. Sales tend to do that for most games.

The holiday probably have some effect as well. More people would have been off work for a few extra days so that could boost the numbers a bit, but those numbers have not dropped back down to to the levels where they were just before the wipe. That says something, too.

Rambo, I really appreciate this kind of response because you were polite and stated your point. I know you don't agree on every point I'm making but you simply can't argue with the numbers, or the facts. What you said about the wipe numbers is just not accurate nor does it mean anything in the long term.

thank you, Mac, intelligent people are confronted to learn even if they have different points of view. I appreciate your effort for the data, we will study the statistics again. greetings my friend at the next post.

[Zothen]

Originally posted by Rambo:

in fact, the day of the wipe had an all-time low of players, but if the devs don't understand it...... https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480#6m

...The update dropped mid-week and the days afterwards had high concurrent player counts again? So whats your point again? cherry-picking your own reality?
Great. So helpful.

[Silly]

Wipes are not a bad thing.

[Albertus]

How can someone be angry about a wipe in a early access game?

[Rambo]

Originally posted by Zothen:

Originally posted by Rambo:

in fact, the day of the wipe had an all-time low of players, but if the devs don't understand it...... https://steamcharts.com/app/1789480#6m

...The update dropped mid-week and the days afterwards had high concurrent player counts again? So whats your point again? cherry-picking your own reality?
Great. So helpful.

I interpret the statistic as "I" see it, I didn't like the wipe, because we struggled with friends to do quests and levels, and I don't like that everything is reset, I can understand fixing bugs or something, but reset NOT ALL. In my opinion and my friends, many have abandoned the game for this, of course it is an EA and I understand it, but they have made it more difficult and less attractive, the quests are confusing, the dailies appear only for a few seconds, in short, I preferred it before the baron patch. Maybe I'm wrong and our friend Macdallan is right. We'll see the next statistics and what the devs will do, because frankly I liked the game a lot, but it doesn't satisfy me to always repeat the same quests. I think I deserve to more. I feel that if they left the old patch, just correcting it, there would be a lot more players, and the new players don't know how it was better before. But fortunately, we are not all the same. So the way it is now, I don't play it, but in the future who knows....

[Bodhi]

The wipe actually brought players up. Pre-Wipe.updates game was at 700 players tops daily. I'd be pissed post-wipe to lose the cosmetics, but besides that, who really cares? If you're decent at the game, getting new gear and grinding the zero-to-hero isn't terrible, and gives you something to do.

The real problem with the game is the space combat/docking system and the barren maps/lack of items. ♥♥♥♥ the Red Baron, UPDATE maps and add a few locked rooms/keys, and in 20 more guns with attachments.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Rambo:

I interpret the statistic as "I" see it, I didn't like the wipe, because we struggled with friends to do quests and levels, and I don't like that everything is reset, I can understand fixing bugs or something, but reset NOT ALL. In my opinion and my friends, many have abandoned the game for this, of course it is an EA and I understand it, but they have made it more difficult and less attractive, the quests are confusing, the dailies appear only for a few seconds, in short, I preferred it before the baron patch. Maybe I'm wrong and our friend Macdallan is right. We'll see the next statistics and what the devs will do, because frankly I liked the game a lot, but it doesn't satisfy me to always repeat the same quests. I think I deserve to more. I feel that if they left the old patch, just correcting it, there would be a lot more players, and the new players don't know how it was better before. But fortunately, we are not all the same. So the way it is now, I don't play it, but in the future who knows....

Well, I can help you with one of those things. The per match missions will appear in your inventory screen on the bottom left just below your Zero to Hero mission. Hit tab and you'll see them under your character health/stamina icon. If you want more info click the info button and it'll expand so you can read the full mission description. If you're solo I suggest you dock before you read them so you'll be safe.

If you and your friends don't enjoy the game right now, and don't like or can't tolerate the wipes, then it's probably best to wait until it's fully released. They don't plan to wipe after the game leaves early access so any progress you make will be retained.

if you have any suggestions for the developers then I highly recommend you head over to the official discord and post something in the suggestion channel, they review those suggestions weekly.

[Evontno]

Originally posted by Albertus:

How can someone be angry about a wipe in a early access game?

All those sour patch kids.

I enjoy a good wipe.

[Strilter]

honestly played more since the wipe. Knowing I died to someone from across the map with an uzi with 4 shots fired and 100 pct accuracy at least i know it wasn't my ability at fault. I enjoy the larger map pool sizes. If you were a solid player before ♥♥♥♥ was wiped then getting it back is trivial and gives you short term goals. The revamping of the quest system makes it easier too soooo.... not sure what the op means here.

Disclaimer: I wasn't screaming for a wipe but uhh... the game itself was a bit shallow to begin with and I would attribute any loss in players to the pace and amount of content. Which is expected for an early access game ... which is why they state it on the store page...