Hackers

[Vengeful Mosquito]

Is this game full of hackers or what? Is this just an unforgiving game where you die quickly like Hunt Showdown or Tarkov and people complaining about hacking or is the game actually full of cheaters?

[Macdallan]

No, it is not "full" of cheaters, but there are some - just like there are in pretty much any and all other online PVP games. Most cheaters aren't actual hackers - they are simply just people who buy and employ cheats, so no, the game is not "full" of hackers.

Yes, player characters can die very quickly in this game. Head shot damage currently has a 3x multiplier and even if you have the game's best helmet your character will die in only 2 to 5 head shots (depends on the gun) from full health. Some guns are strong enough to drop players in the best armour that the game has to offer in only 4 or 6 torso hits as well, so it doesn't take all that much to drop someone, especially if at least one head shot happens during a fight.

Where some of the "cheating" complaints come from is likely a combination of things but usually not due to an actual cheater. Bugs and glitches can be part of the issue since this is an early access game and they can definitely cause situations where someone will appear to be cheating when they aren't. Desync between client and server, and of course latency issues, have a hand in the perception of cheating, too.

On top of those things a general lack of game knowledge on the part of new players leads to people thinking some things are cheats when they aren't, such as not understanding how damage works and thinking there's "no way" gun x could kill me because I have armour Z and helmet Y or thinking "I mag dumped that guy, why didn't they die, they must be cheating." when the real issue is that they don't understand how recoil works and they ended up missing 90% of their shots because they just went full auto at medium range while firing at a moving target.

It seems that many newer players just don't know how easy it really is to kill another player character in this game, or how much map knowledge can help - such as knowing certain advantageous angles to shoot from or knowing very good hiding spots, etc.

Many of us also forget how much skill level differences really matter. Some of the top players have a huge amount of practice and a lot of skill at the game so when you encounter those players it can seem like they're cheating when they're simply much, much better than you or me because of a higher level of skill and they likely have much more practice with the game.

It's also very easy to just assume someone was cheating when you don't know what happened. If you get the game I suggest setting up your video card software to capture instant replays and start clipping your "suspicious" deaths, a one minute playback is usually enough. Watch it a few times and you'll often see why something happened, and will know it wasn't cheating. If you clip something and after watching it you still suspect cheating then give the devs the footage over on the official Discord (link on the Steam store page, send it to @mod_mail) so they can verify it was a cheater and ban them if they are.

[[SEA] Archduke McSkellington]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

It's also very easy to just assume someone was cheating when you don't know what happened. If you get the game I suggest setting up your video card software to capture instant replays and start clipping your "suspicious" deaths, a one minute playback is usually enough. Watch it a few times and you'll often see why something happened, and will know it wasn't cheating. If you clip something and after watching it you still suspect cheating then give the devs the footage over on the official Discord (link on the Steam store page, send it to @mod_mail) so they can verify it was a cheater and ban them if they are.

This is a game changer for the overall video game experience in my opinion, just make sure you dont do what i did in war thunder and accidentally clog up a file with 60 gigs of 1 minutes clips "its fine im gonna trim them all to the couple seconds that matter, oh ♥♥♥♥ ive just inundated my life with a video editing job ♥♥♥♥ me"

But in marauders i have used the last minute clips to verify that, no, that (most likely AI) character did not survive unfairly and kill me, im just unlucky and my sawn off spread literally outlined their head, or that although i was firing a lot of rounds and hitting the target, i was missing the target way more than i realized so yeah, a LOT of frustration is removed with more knowledge of the death you suffered, and that is something that you best can manage with stuff like NVIDIA overlay with the screen capture setting set up to record last minute on whatever hotkey you press, just make sure its not one you use for anything, i use SCR LK because its hard to accidentally press.

Plus you can clip when you double kill two marauders and then force your friends to watch it in discord by holding the server captive with a mandatory screen sharing hostage situation.

[Mick]

It is absolutely a higher than normal cheater ratio compared to other games.

With what hours i've had I have encountered god mode, aimbot, you name it.

The people denying the problem are themselves, most certainly, cheaters that don't want their playground to become a ghost town.

[[SEA] Archduke McSkellington]

Originally posted by Human:

^you just described garbage tier net code.^

the human brains incapability of seeing bullets that leave a trace flash on screen for a literal single screen before i die that i can only catch on a replay is....somehow net code? the ♥♥♥♥ you on about.

[[SEA] Archduke McSkellington]

Originally posted by MackDuck:

It is absolutely a higher than normal cheater ratio compared to other games.

With what hours i've had I have encountered god mode, aimbot, you name it.

The people denying the problem are themselves, most certainly, cheaters that don't want their playground to become a ghost town.

Prove literally anything youve said, and then share your vast number of raids ran and hours played this wipe.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Archduke Wellington McSkelington:

Originally posted by MackDuck:

It is absolutely a higher than normal cheater ratio compared to other games.

With what hours i've had I have encountered god mode, aimbot, you name it.

The people denying the problem are themselves, most certainly, cheaters that don't want their playground to become a ghost town.

Prove literally anything youve said, and then share your vast number of raids ran and hours played this wipe.

How about 15 years playing multiplayer games? Is that enough hours for you? Marauders is not that unique. I know what cheating looks like.

It is what it is. Im not going to go on a crusade or fill my storage with many hours of recording just to catch examples for you.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by MackDuck:

Originally posted by Archduke Wellington McSkelington:

Prove literally anything youve said, and then share your vast number of raids ran and hours played this wipe.

How about 15 years playing multiplayer games? Is that enough hours for you? Marauders is not that unique. I know what cheating looks like.

It is what it is. Im not going to go on a crusade or fill my storage with many hours of recording just to catch examples for you.

Set up instant replay. You can grab 1 minute long video that will show what happened. Zero need to fill up all of your storage. Takes only a minute or so to set up, and both NVidia and AMD GPU software has that capability.

Supply the video proof of cheating to the developers at https://support.team17.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new or over on the official Discord channel (link on the Steam store page). Cheers.

[KKDJ20]

I'm at 80 hours and I've seen a total of 1 cheater in my game. They exist but very few and far between, far less frequent than in tarkov.

[Kankaku]

Full of cheaters? No. Will you notice more than in a Triple A game? absolutely. This will be exacerbated if you live in a region where hacking is more prevalent as well, as it is with any game.

Tiny dev team and the game uses EAC. You could go 1000 hours without ever coming across someone cheating or you could see a couple in your first few hours of playing like I did.

[Paraworld]

There is hackers in the game. And not just the usual wallhack aimbot or speed mode but there is people with god mode as well. Ignore Macdellan comments hes paid by the devs to shill positive stuff.

[Hydraxonra]

Originally posted by Vengeful Mosquito:

Is this game full of hackers or what? Is this just an unforgiving game where you die quickly like Hunt Showdown or Tarkov and people complaining about hacking or is the game actually full of cheaters?

I always encounter the same guys that i kill in some loop and i can't kill some that are doing just hackin ♥♥♥♥. Like shoting through a wall while i only see his helmet on top... I'm asking myself how can they shot like that because their weap is IN the wall but i guess some guy will tell me i'm a noob lel. Still i'm calling that a aimbot but anyway.

There is not a lot of hackers but we are a few so you will encounter them alot in your game. Especially if you launch a session for 3-4 hours straight.

[fRx Dimitrov UA]

Originally posted by Paraworld:

There is hackers in the game. And not just the usual wallhack aimbot or speed mode but there is people with god mode as well. Ignore Macdellan comments hes paid by the devs to shill positive stuff.

bruh is back with his old mossy tinhat paid shill comments
still can't accept the fact of people having their own opinions? or you would rather force everyone act like NPC?

[Rambo]

there is no need to understand it, just look at the classifications, we had the Chinese nick name 534715961 with 2 billion kills, (I screened it, on my steam profile) and many others, this was the most obviously scammer who remained for a month in the standings, and only I noticed?????? I don't think so, now there's Mr. squiddy who made 3600 kils in 3 weeks, the devs would just need to check the ranking to understand who uses hacks and cheats, a degree is not necessary. Then yes, cheaters are in every game, but if they don't even know how to read a kills chart in game and check the profiles, this seems paradoxical to me
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875568235

[fRx Dimitrov UA]

Originally posted by Rambo:

there is no need to understand it, just look at the classifications, we had the Chinese nick name 534715961 with 2 billion kills, (I screened it, on my steam profile) and many others, this was the most obviously scammer who remained for a month in the standings, and only I noticed?????? I don't think so, now there's Mr. squiddy who made 3600 kils in 3 weeks, the devs would just need to check the ranking to understand who uses hacks and cheats, a degree is not necessary. Then yes, cheaters are in every game, but if they don't even know how to read a kills chart in game and check the profiles, this seems paradoxical to me

those people who have astronomical kills all they do is breach other people and then quckly leave the raid
for me personally this is unbearable monotonous keyboard smash inducing gameplay

i'm the dude who knows its best bcuz i did the same crap in very old title Bionic Commando to reach top 2 right before rankings got hacked by people

[Kankaku]

Originally posted by fRx Dimitrov UA:

Originally posted by Paraworld:

There is hackers in the game. And not just the usual wallhack aimbot or speed mode but there is people with god mode as well. Ignore Macdellan comments hes paid by the devs to shill positive stuff.

bruh is back with his old mossy tinhat paid shill comments
still can't accept the fact of people having their own opinions? or you would rather force everyone act like NPC?

He's not wrong, Hackers are extremely prevalent in the game. I don't even think that they have server/client side game recording upon reports via 3rd party software API integration or using the Unity in engine tools. If they do, then asking people for "proof of hacking" not only wouldn't be needed, it would be redundant. I honestly don't think they have anything other than a client side time stamp with light system diagnostics provided by EAC upon getting reports. If that's the case it does literally absolutely nothing because they'd just be going off of what EAC tells them at the timestamp of the match with no recorded footage etc. Beings that you would side step EAC to hack in the first place they wouldn't receive anything that could be perceived as "bad" back upon said reports.