Shotgun Bots Are Brutal

[SirBredMan]

Does anyone else get absolutely merced by shotgun bots? I'm aware the bots are supposed to be an obstacle, but I feel like two-shotting me with the sawed-off from 20 meters away is a little overkill. It even happens when I've got a panzer rig and welding mask.

[Macdallan]

It's a shotgun, and it should be brutal.

If you're getting hit in the face with buckshot you should be dying in 1 or 2 hits at 20 meters. If you don't think so then you don't know what 12 gauge 00 buckshot can do.

If you're getting hit in the head the panzer rig won't help you. Head hits do 3.5x damage and only your helmet helps with that damage.

[SirBredMan]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

It's a shotgun, and it should be brutal.

If you're getting hit in the face with buckshot you should be dying in 1 or 2 hits at 20 meters. If you don't think so then you don't know what 12 gauge 00 buckshot can do.

If you're getting hit in the head the panzer rig won't help you. Head hits do 3.5x damage and only your helmet helps with that damage.

shotgun spread seems pretty wide on all of the ones I've used so far, i assumed there'd be less damage at range because of that.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by The Great Cheese Consumer:

Originally posted by Macdallan:

It's a shotgun, and it should be brutal.

If you're getting hit in the face with buckshot you should be dying in 1 or 2 hits at 20 meters. If you don't think so then you don't know what 12 gauge 00 buckshot can do.

If you're getting hit in the head the panzer rig won't help you. Head hits do 3.5x damage and only your helmet helps with that damage.

shotgun spread seems pretty wide on all of the ones I've used so far, i assumed there'd be less damage at range because of that.

You haven't been one-shotted from LONG range by a sawed off shotgun toting prisoner yet, have you?

[Wickardo]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by The Great Cheese Consumer:

shotgun spread seems pretty wide on all of the ones I've used so far, i assumed there'd be less damage at range because of that.

You haven't been one-shotted from LONG range by a sawed off shotgun toting prisoner yet, have you?

Yes :(, just yesterday when I thought I thought I could get away with a stack of U.A war bonds, a prisoner blasted my rat ass back to the hangar, I still remember the prisoner´s name... Catrina

[Perplexed]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

It's a shotgun, and it should be brutal.

If you're getting hit in the face with buckshot you should be dying in 1 or 2 hits at 20 meters. If you don't think so then you don't know what 12 gauge 00 buckshot can do.

If you're getting hit in the head the panzer rig won't help you. Head hits do 3.5x damage and only your helmet helps with that damage.

Yeah totally, except for the fact that when it's used by players the spread is the typical Call of Duty style spread. Only bots are able to one-tap with the sawed-off from long range, that's the real problem

[Strilter]

should I be getting hit with a shotgun round from around a corner 30m away while my opponent is looking the opposite direction? Or is that intended gameplay?

[Bobylicious]

Ive noticed that the spread for the bots is significantly smaller that when a player holds it, dont know if its just an afterthought from an older system or if its supposed to be like that. But thats my theory as to why they do so much damage from so far away

[Jimmy Rustle]

Pretty sure this is something that'll be fixed, hopefully with the update next week. Hearing buckshot pelt around you from a shotgun-wielding bot should give a little hit of adrenaline and encourage caution, but considering shotguns are OP against high tier armor atm due to the minimum damage cap, I can't imagine bots will maintain their tighter spreads for much longer.

TL;DR It'll be fixed guys, don't worry.

[SirBredMan]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by The Great Cheese Consumer:

shotgun spread seems pretty wide on all of the ones I've used so far, i assumed there'd be less damage at range because of that.

You haven't been one-shotted from LONG range by a sawed off shotgun toting prisoner yet, have you?

Yeah I've been boofed by them multiple times, they're terrifying. That's part of the reason why I made the initial post.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by The Great Cheese Consumer:

Originally posted by Macdallan:

You haven't been one-shotted from LONG range by a sawed off shotgun toting prisoner yet, have you?

Yeah I've been boofed by them multiple times, they're terrifying. That's part of the reason why I made the initial post.

The reason I asked this question was because your initial post did not mention long range encounters. You said 20m which is well within the lethal range for 12g 00 buckshot even if it is fired from a sawed off shotgun. That's not super close range for a sawed off but it's not so far away that it shouldn't be very deadly or that you absolutely won't be hit by multiple pellets. It's a completely different story when they're 50m or more away and still one-shotting you to the head with the shotgun consistently.

Originally posted by Perplexed:

Yeah totally, except for the fact that when it's used by players the spread is the typical Call of Duty style spread. Only bots are able to one-tap with the sawed-off from long range, that's the real problem

Yeah, there's some work to be done on the bots and shotguns, that's for sure.

Originally posted by Jimmy Rustle:

Pretty sure this is something that'll be fixed, hopefully with the update next week. Hearing buckshot pelt around you from a shotgun-wielding bot should give a little hit of adrenaline and encourage caution, but considering shotguns are OP against high tier armor atm due to the minimum damage cap, I can't imagine bots will maintain their tighter spreads for much longer.

TL;DR It'll be fixed guys, don't worry.

Yep, you're right. They'll tune this up sooner or later.

[Flavalicious]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by The Great Cheese Consumer:

shotgun spread seems pretty wide on all of the ones I've used so far, i assumed there'd be less damage at range because of that.

You haven't been one-shotted from LONG range by a sawed off shotgun toting prisoner yet, have you?

Worth noting that the little Mosin obrez pistols they sometimes carry sound like shotguns but are actually firing those nice girthy rifle rounds instead. Unless someone on your squad lived to loot the AI id wager it was that instead of a sawed off from that range (they sound very similar)